Any news on 7800 xt?

Author_25 · 11 Sep 2023 at 19:55

The 7700XT appears to have dropped in price to match the 4060 Ti 16GB, £430, if the price drops further then a £70-£80 price gap, with the £7800XT, would make it a more appealing choice for many gamers.

The 7700XT outperforms the 4060Ti 16GB in raterisation performance and in RT just behind the 4060 Ti, or ties with it, in both 1080P and 1440P.

If it was not for the stupid launch price it would have been considered the better card.

If the 7700XT price drops further, then AMD may end up dominating the Mid-Range completely, especially if FSR 3 lives up to the AMD hype.

Grim5 · 11 Sep 2023 at 20:30

Lmao less than week after launch with a price drop

7700xt = waste of sand

LumpyVR · 11 Sep 2023 at 20:31

So my 7800XT has been dispatched, yay!

The last AMD card I had I’m pretty sure was still ATI, so what’s the general procedure to swap an NVIDIA card for an AMD card? Is it just run ddu before shutting down, swapping the card and then downloading the latest AMD drivers?

Author_25 · 11 Sep 2023 at 21:03

Grim5 said:
Lmao less than week after launch with a price drop

7700xt = waste of sand

So was the 7900XT at launch but as the price dropped, it became worth buying.

More than likely in a few months the price gap between the 7800XT and the 7700XT will widen and the 7700XT will be worth a look as well.

Author_25 · 11 Sep 2023 at 21:06

LumpyVR said:
So my 7800XT has been dispatched, yay!

The last AMD card I had I’m pretty sure was still ATI, so what’s the general procedure to swap an NVIDIA card for an AMD card? Is it just run ddu before shutting down, swapping the card and then downloading the latest AMD drivers?

The DDU's creators guide can be found here,

Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU) download version 18.0.8.1

Download Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU) - Remove AMD/NVIDIA/INTEL Graphics Drivers Cleanly - DDU is a driver removal utility that helps you completely uninstall AMD/NVIDIA graphics card drivers and packages from your system, leaving no leftovers behind, including registry keys, folders, files...

www.guru3d.com

Apex · 11 Sep 2023 at 21:23

Grim5 said:
Lmao less than week after launch with a price drop

7700xt = waste of sand

Sounds like NV's entire lineup below the 4090 then...

:cry:

ALXAndy · 11 Sep 2023 at 21:45

LumpyVR said:
So my 7800XT has been dispatched, yay!

The last AMD card I had I’m pretty sure was still ATI, so what’s the general procedure to swap an NVIDIA card for an AMD card? Is it just run ddu before shutting down, swapping the card and then downloading the latest AMD drivers?

Uninstall the main Nvidia package. Do not uninstall things like Physx, as certain games still need it.

Install AMD drivers, perform a clean install.

Done.

Marvel at cool things like this.

ALXAndy · 11 Sep 2023 at 21:47

Grim5 said:
Lmao less than week after launch with a price drop

7700xt = waste of sand

Polar opposite. Waste of sand would have been throwing the die in the bin after it failed to be a 7800XT.

The only thing wrong about it is the launch price. Which will change, 100%

LumpyVR · 11 Sep 2023 at 22:19

Author_25 said:
The DDU's creators guide can be found here,

Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU) download version 18.0.8.1

Download Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU) - Remove AMD/NVIDIA/INTEL Graphics Drivers Cleanly - DDU is a driver removal utility that helps you completely uninstall AMD/NVIDIA graphics card drivers and packages from your system, leaving no leftovers behind, including registry keys, folders, files...

www.guru3d.com

Cheers will have a nosey!

LumpyVR · 11 Sep 2023 at 22:21

ALXAndy said:
Uninstall the main Nvidia package. Do not uninstall things like Physx, as certain games still need it.

Install AMD drivers, perform a clean install.

Done.

Marvel at cool things like this.

Oooh nice

You wouldn’t bother with ddu then?

ALXAndy · 11 Sep 2023 at 22:41

No. In my experience it can do more harm than good.

I have switched three PCs from Nvid to AMD now, and each time I didn't use it. You may get a low clock until you reboot but that is about it.

Like I said, removing certain parts of the Nvidia driver can stop games working.

LumpyVR · 11 Sep 2023 at 23:06

ALXAndy said:
No. In my experience it can do more harm than good.

I have switched three PCs from Nvid to AMD now, and each time I didn't use it. You may get a low clock until you reboot but that is about it.

Like I said, removing certain parts of the Nvidia driver can stop games working.

Very interesting, cheers for the tip!

Joxeon · 12 Sep 2023 at 07:46

ALXAndy said:
Polar opposite. Waste of sand would have been throwing the die in the bin after it failed to be a 7800XT.

The only thing wrong about it is the launch price. Which will change, 100%

By next year when the 7700XT is going for £350 it’ll be considered as the best value gpu on the market.

Murphy · 12 Sep 2023 at 07:55

Author_25 said:
The 7700XT appears to have dropped in price to match the 4060 Ti 16GB, £430, if the price drops further then a £70-£80 price gap, with the £7800XT, would make it a more appealing choice for many gamers.

I don't disagree that it would be appealing but comparing it to the most pointless Nvidia card to ever exist seems, well... Pointless.

RBImGuy · 12 Sep 2023 at 07:58

Author_25 said:
So was the 7900XT at launch but as the price dropped, it became worth buying.

More than likely in a few months the price gap between the 7800XT and the 7700XT will widen and the 7700XT will be worth a look as well.

launch and down the line changes price points due to demand
people really jump to buy these cards

ICDP · 12 Sep 2023 at 08:04

Grim5 said:
Lmao less than week after launch with a price drop

7700xt = waste of sand

Interesting take. Though basically you are trying to do some anti AMD trolling. The thing is your attempt was quite amateurish truth be told. Here’s how I would take a well aimed dig at AMD on this issue.

Way to go AMD, your idiotic pricing of the 7700 XT failed and you were told about this when these prices were announced.

So now for my theory on this price drop. Why, because your upsell for the 7800 XT worked too well and there are none available anywhere near MSRP. People don’t want a 7700 XT but they can’t get a 7800 XT.

Hmm, actually maybe AMD executed this perfectly. Up-sell the early adopters so the 7800 XT sells out, reduce price of the 7700 XT and then they sell like hot cakes. £430 for a GPU faster than a 2080Ti and a Starfield bundle.

jimferno · 12 Sep 2023 at 08:15

Joxeon said:
By next year when the 7700XT is going for £350 it’ll be considered as the best value gpu on the market.

Agreed, It's clearly going to occupy the space and price of the 6700 series when they finally sell through.

ICDP · 12 Sep 2023 at 08:17

Joxeon said:
By next year when the 7700XT is going for £350 it’ll be considered as the best value gpu on the market.

It’s already the best value GPU on the market IMHO but more price drops would be the icing on the cake.

Joxeon · 12 Sep 2023 at 08:39

ICDP said:
It’s already the best value GPU on the market IMHO but more price drops would be the icing on the cake.

I don’t think it’s there yet as even a 4060ti priced at £350 compared to the cheapest 7700XT at £430 is a 23% price increase for just a 14% performance increase.

KompuKare · 12 Sep 2023 at 08:57

Joxeon said:
I don’t think it’s there yet as even a 4060ti priced at £350 compared to the cheapest 7700XT at £430 is a 23% price increase for just a 14% performance increase.

£350 for an 8GB card is hard to swallow in 2023 though. Same with the 4070's 12GB: versus the 7800 XT, in theory 4-5% slower for 50W less isn't a bad, but 12GB is too little for £500+ at this stage.