Poll: Anybody here refuse to use Steam?
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Don't have any issues with Steam. It's a great way of keeping your games updated and not having to downloaded mega patches every time they are released.
Yes, for major releases they are expensive and for this I do normally buy elsewhere, but you can still add a non steam purchased game to steam so things like the ingame overlay etc work.
Yes, for major releases they are expensive and for this I do normally buy elsewhere, but you can still add a non steam purchased game to steam so things like the ingame overlay etc work.
http://www.strategyinformer.com/news/11434/steam-user-almost-loses-1800-worth-of-software-due-to-ban
sooner or later the DRM situation is gonna reach an impasse... we just moved a few more inches towards that.. not surprised that Valve reinstated his account though.
Heres the kind of situation where all your games that you bought with your money can be take n off you without a word from Valve
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=347959
sooner or later the DRM situation is gonna reach an impasse... we just moved a few more inches towards that.. not surprised that Valve reinstated his account though.
Heres the kind of situation where all your games that you bought with your money can be take n off you without a word from Valve
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=347959
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I don't use it for my new games, but myself and a friend both use it to pick up older games for multi-player. Recently we've had all three Flatout games, Saints Row 2, Battlefield 2 collection, and both Serious Sam games for less than £20.
Can't say much fairer than that, and I haven't experienced any problems at all with it thus far. I'm more than happy to use it for the great deals they have on older stuff. We've had 15 hours of multi-player fun out of Flatout 2, and it cost us 60p each. Absolute steal.
Can't say much fairer than that, and I haven't experienced any problems at all with it thus far. I'm more than happy to use it for the great deals they have on older stuff. We've had 15 hours of multi-player fun out of Flatout 2, and it cost us 60p each. Absolute steal.
Caporegime
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Meh, personally I find it overly obtrusive and unnecessary. I like the EA downloader because thats all it is, download to a backup drive, install when I want to play them to another drive, uninstall easily as the install files are still there. Its quick and it doesn't have all the other BS I just don't need.
Price wise Steam is a joke, it always feels laggy, makes games fairly slow to load up unless you leave steam on all the time, even then it takes longer, thats not the end of the world but, meh.
Steam, shop and game list only, can open a game without steam easily, it only verifies anything when you install then the game works without steam.
I was debating if I should get assasins creed brotherhood on there, in the end I did, now people who bought from Amazon have the game as loads got it yesterday, most others will get it in the morning, Steam has changed from 17th, to 18th, and then to 18th late in the evening and apparently the last time this happened with Steam and Ass Creed 2, it ended up not unlocking till a few days later as it came out later in the States. Likewise, no preload, meh, they do tend to have quite a few screwups, and problems decrypting files quickly when games are released and the like, problems EA downloader, and even D2D haven't given me yet.
The main thing I hate about steam is, steam lovers never stop making threads about steam and all the great deals for old games everyone has. Steam does some great deals, sure, but most of those deals are already available, Assassins Creed 1 for £3, its been that price for ages before steam does it at that "sale" price. Most of their sale prices are normal anywhere else.
SO many people who REALLY love steam have like 100-300 games on there thanks to sales and packages, and will never, ever play 90-290 of them, and in 10 years will realise they spent an extra few hundred quid on stuff they've never even installed.
Price wise Steam is a joke, it always feels laggy, makes games fairly slow to load up unless you leave steam on all the time, even then it takes longer, thats not the end of the world but, meh.
Steam, shop and game list only, can open a game without steam easily, it only verifies anything when you install then the game works without steam.
I was debating if I should get assasins creed brotherhood on there, in the end I did, now people who bought from Amazon have the game as loads got it yesterday, most others will get it in the morning, Steam has changed from 17th, to 18th, and then to 18th late in the evening and apparently the last time this happened with Steam and Ass Creed 2, it ended up not unlocking till a few days later as it came out later in the States. Likewise, no preload, meh, they do tend to have quite a few screwups, and problems decrypting files quickly when games are released and the like, problems EA downloader, and even D2D haven't given me yet.
The main thing I hate about steam is, steam lovers never stop making threads about steam and all the great deals for old games everyone has. Steam does some great deals, sure, but most of those deals are already available, Assassins Creed 1 for £3, its been that price for ages before steam does it at that "sale" price. Most of their sale prices are normal anywhere else.
SO many people who REALLY love steam have like 100-300 games on there thanks to sales and packages, and will never, ever play 90-290 of them, and in 10 years will realise they spent an extra few hundred quid on stuff they've never even installed.
Caporegime
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i was tidying my room up and i threw out my pc games, as they were all linked to my steam account and i thought to myself, what do i need all these cases and discs for when i just download the game straight off steam if i buy a new pc.
little did i know that people actually go through your litter at some sort of sorting site. so when my wheelie bin was emptied, then the rubbish taken away, someone found my games, then sold them or gave them to someone to use.
they then stole my steam account, since they had photographic evidence of them having the serial numbers, and i didnt, a steam account which i owned for like 6 years and with over £300 worth of games on it.
i managed to get my account back, minus all the games the guy had stolen, and they were transferred to the other guys account, steam support said they couldnt help me, even though i could prove i had bought the games from places online, and had online receipts. plus the fact they had been on my account for like 6 years, how could that even be possible if some other guy owned them? just think about it, did the guy fall into a coma for 6 years and i broke into his house, wrote down his serial numbers and used his games until he woke up and thought you know what, im going to play those games now.
i showed them the game, for example half life 2, was bough from xxxxx on lets say for example the 5th of march 2006, i then asked them on what date i had registered half life 2 to my steam account, it should have been within 2 weeks of said purchasing date, they still wouldnt help me.
it was so obvious that the guy had stolen my games, yet they gave me my account back, minus the games.
strong lesson to be learnt here, after putting your serial into steam, verify it has worked and then burn it.
I only buy Steamworks games as a last resort & will usually wait until the price is very low anyway like sub £5 special sale price. Apart from that could not care less about it I will always want a physical copy.
Heard so many horror stories of Steam suspending peoples accounts or delaying decryption for ages & it never ceases to amaze me how so many are prepared to put all their eggs in the Steam basket but I guess the saying there is one born every minute applies here more than ever especially considering the OTT prices you pay on new releases just because you cannot keep tabs on your physical media
Heard so many horror stories of Steam suspending peoples accounts or delaying decryption for ages & it never ceases to amaze me how so many are prepared to put all their eggs in the Steam basket but I guess the saying there is one born every minute applies here more than ever especially considering the OTT prices you pay on new releases just because you cannot keep tabs on your physical media
yeah like Medal of bloody Honor, was tosh!!!
The T&C do make it clear you can't sell your steam account. I'm surprised they reinstated it tbh.
The guy in that thread did get his problem sorted eventually. With a user-base as large as steam, these things are bound to happen. The fact that they are rare is a sign of how well the system works.
The "all eggs in one basket" aspect of steam does concern me, but it's not without precedent. XBox gamers and PS3 gamers are also locked into one platform, and can in theory have that use revoked too: MS banned up to one million (hacked) XBoxes from online play recently.
That said, Valve is positioning steam not as a gaming vendor, but a gaming platform, and in that sense the idea of having all eggs in one basket just comes with the territory.
Means nothing. EULA wont hold up if challenged in a court of law. T&Cs dont override your statutory rights never have...never will... despite what rubbish any company selling or haha "licencing/renting" X product insists.
Yes but no need for the ridiculous level of difficulty he had to get his account back. Steam banned his account first without bothering to even communicate with him.
Yep agreed, PSN games locked to your account not sure if you can transfer/gift em.
Just comes with the territory? what kind of argument is that? It certainly does not legitimize it. Besides you can still have all your eggs in the one basket but be able to sell/gift (or whatever!) either your account or the game you have on it. Not to be able to do so is a restriction of your consumer rights.
Hrmm you want to buy this game sure here you go but you must use our restrictive system to do so. We will gather information on you, hold records on you, ban you from access to your purchased games on whim. Basically interfere with the control you have over your own games.
Caporegime
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i refuse to buy back the games i already payed for and where stolen from me, but in future i will either burn the serial, or buy direct from steam.
people think steam is the best think on the planet until they run into problem, steam support is full of idiots, the account had been linked to my email address for like 6 years, and shortly after it was linked to another account, i claimed it had been hacked, doesnt exactly take a genius to work out that the guy with the new email account is the hacker.
but he had photo's of my serial numbers, which meant that, after i had thrown them in my wheelie bin, someone had taken them out of the trash and used them to steal my account.
i know the guys email address, steam account, found his youtube account, the city in which he stays and everything.
he is not that far away from where i stay, and im in scotland, i even emailed him several times saying that i had thrown the games out and asked him how he had managed to get a hold of them, he was adamant he had bought them some of which 5+ years ago. yet had now decided to start using them and found that they had already been used.
steam support had been copied in on the emails, so he was lying to ensure he kept the games.
hopefully his house gets broken into at some point, will teach him not to steal from others.
you know you can burn a physical copy of your steam games.
Well the people do always turn out to have done a charge back via their bank or paypal.