Anyone fancy a Spitfire?

The inventor of the Spitfire came from Stoke and went to Hanley High School which I also went to.
He died in 1937 so never got to see what his toy did.
 
Go to youtube and search for "spitfire low pass". NSFW due to swearing but worth a look !

One memory of the BBMF that stands out was a few years ago, we were stood on Town Quay in Southampton and watched the Lancaster. Spitfire and Hurricane fly down Southampton water in formation. The Hurricane and Spit soon re-appeared doing some aerobatics and generally zipping around. After some time I started wondering where the Lancaster had gone, just then there was a huge rumbling sound, look up and left, there she is appearing over the top of the buildings of Town Quay, I swear maybe 100 feet if that, came right over the top of us - I could easily see all the detail of the underside of the aircraft.. awe inspiring. God only knows what the sound of hundreds of them was like when on missions.
 
The Supermarine factory where Mitchell worked was in the area north of the itchen bridge, the section with the slipway at an angle that sticks out: http://goo.gl/maps/cItmE

Note the spitfire in the brickwork on the south side.

The Factory was heavily bombed in 1940 and for the most part abandoned. I believe that the administration went to Hursley near Winchester. Manufacture was spread out in any suitable building, even small garages.
Most spitfires were made at the Castle Bromwich factory, near Birmingham (later became the Rover car factory).
 
I am sure I read a story like this one and it was about the Americans had hid loads of equipment and vehicles in a cave in Germany or France .
 
I am sure I read a story like this one and it was about the Americans had hid loads of equipment and vehicles in a cave in Germany or France .

It's not unusual apparently, it was too expensive to ship loads of gear back home, so some was buried / hidden.

Rumour has it that quite a few american jeeps are buried at the old RAF base in Warrington.
 
I'm sure I read that the P51 was troubled with engine problems until RR solved the problem.

It was not that the Allison engine that powered the early P51s was poor. It powered many other successful american fighters during the early part of the war, such as the P-38 and the P-40. In the Mustang however it lacked a supercharger so causing the aircraft's performance at high altitude to be poor.
 
Just a little update. Apparently there was an article in the Times yesterday, the bloke claims he's seen aircraft down there:

Cundall claims a camera was sent down a borehole captured shots of the planes.
"We could see the side of the engine which appeared to be intact, with just a bit of
silt on the battery box"

hmmmm.. if he could see any engine that means that box is broken and moisture will have got in.
 
Any German that got a confirmed Mosquito kill was actually awarded 2 kills on their record because the German high command saw them as a massive threat. They were a pretty amazing aircraft, given they were mostly wood.

Lets not forget the Hurricane either guys, there were more of those flying during BoB than Spitfires. Older design and ultimately not as fast, many pilots said they were a better gun platform as it was more sturdy. They were fabric covered rather than metal like the spitfire and could often take more hits because bullets/shells often passed straight through the airframe whereas they usually created more of a mess on a spit. Tangmere museum have a crashed frontal section of a Hurricane which is really interesting to look at:
http://www.tangmere-museum.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/ar0910-1.jpg

The Lancaster originally started life as a medium bomber called the Manchester, it was twin engined, using another Rolls Royce engine called a Vulture. The Vulture engine was powerful but unreliable and the plane did not perform very well. Roy Chadwick took the basic design and added (IIRC) 16 feet to each wing and replaced the Vultures with four Merlin engines. The new aircraft became the Lancaster and met the spec for a heavy bomber that the government had requested. The Germans didn't have anything like it and even the yanks were amazed - the B17 could only carry 4500lbs of bombs on a long range mission, the Lancaster could carry as much as 14000lb. Upon seeing a Lancaster close up for the first time one US Airman commented "Its a god damm flying bomb bay".
There are only 2 flying Lancasters in the world - one is in Canada and the other is PA474, which is part of the Battle Of Britain Memorial Flight.
There is, however another Lancaster in running condition up in Lincolnshire. It is owned by two brothers who lost their third brother during the war. They own a genuine WW2 bomber base, kept as per 1940s spec as a memorial to their fallen brother. The Lancaster they have is named "Just Jane", not only can you visit it and step inside, but you can even go for a taxi run along the runway... There are long terms plans to have Just Jane flight worthy - but as you can imagine its very expensive! Their site is here: http://www.lincsaviation.co.uk/

Apologies for more book links but this one is worth a read if you like the Lancasters. It centres around the worst job in a Lanc, that of the rear gunner or "Tail End Charlie". reading what these guys did and the conditions they did it in is almost unbelievable today. Tail End Charlies, John Nichol & Tony Rennell

Excellent read, thank you. As much as I like the Spitfire and Hurricane, The Mossie is still my no 1 piston engined plane.

It makes you wonder what the UK could come up with today given a blank cheque ? Could they build something to rival the F22 ? The ingenuity has always been there.
 
Spitfires are awesome. A truly iconic plane.

However, spare a thought for the Hurricane and the fact it was more successfull in the Battle of Britain han the Spitfire was. But either way, the true heros of the skies were the pilots.

I will be following this story. I really hope they find some in decent condition! The guy who leading the exploring is a pilot and has a real passion for aircraft - especially the spitfire. I believe his son is also a pilot as well, having inherited much of his fathers enthusiasm.

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It's not unusual apparently, it was too expensive to ship loads of gear back home, so some was buried / hidden.

Rumour has it that quite a few american jeeps are buried at the old RAF base in Warrington.

Dad always claimed that there's something similar at RAF Shawbury. Lots of stuff was bulldozed and buried there.

Would be very very interesting to dig it up!
 
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