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Anyone planning to buy the RX 6900 XT, rather than RTX 3080?

nvidiamd said:
Water cooled 6900xt will beat the 3090 easily.
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Remember the Red Devil had a 3rd power slot on the PCB. So maybe we will see a Liquid Devil 6900xt with 3 power connectors and unlocked power limit.
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What about with raytracing
 
These threads remind me of the multi-month page post wars Matt, Cat and others used to have about Nvidia DX11/FXAA/G-Sync versus Vulkan/MLAA/Freesync back in the day.

But but the AMD card doesn’t have ‘insert tech here’.

What i have learnt is yes AMD might be a bit slower to come to the table on the software side but they tend to arrive in decent shape once the dust settles.

AMD have deep ties to the game development teams and have done for a fair number of years, whatever happens with the AMD version of DLSS/RT it will most likely be in the best interests of the industry as a whole and not just what Nvidia wants to make them money.
 
I would not rely on watercooling or overclocking for performance. One card could be great but want to bet you get the dud. If you are going to heat your room, might as well get two RTX 3090's and be done with it. Remember these chips are 7 nm. Average power is not the issue, its power spikes and hot spots.

I dont know why anyone would get a 6900xt or RTX3090. They are just far more expensive and dont add massive amounts of performance. People power modded cards so that they hit 650 watts power draw. The performance is magic on water. They get 20k instead of 19k or 18k.

The story you dont hear is that 6-12 months later the card died. The memory is no longer stable at the overclocking settings. Or the 28 days waiting for a replacement.

Fastest 3080 is faster then the fastest 6800xt. The fastest 3080 (example asus rog strix 3080 gaming oc etc) is faster than the 6900xt. No doubt the 6900xt will get faster on water but I doubt it will touch a water cooled RTX 3090.
 
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zx128k said:
Fastest 3080 is faster then the fastest 6800xt.
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Fastest 3080 is on LN2
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/7525...to-2340mhz-breaks-oc-world-records/index.html
If we exclude that one from the TimeSpy results, there is no 3080 faster than the 6800xt. The 6800xt is already ahead on average score and the difference will grow even bigger. It was more than 100 points below the 3080 a week ago. I told you back then that 6800xt will be ahead 3080 in short time.
The reference 6900xt is a bad design that should not exist. 6800xt reference is a great card, the 6900xt is bad since it has the same cooling and the same TDP. But once AIB cards will come, no one knows how fast they will go. Especially since it seems they will have much higher TDP limit.
 
Besty said:
These threads remind me of the multi-month page post wars Matt, Cat and others used to have about Nvidia DX11/FXAA/G-Sync versus Vulkan/MLAA/Freesync back in the day.

But but the AMD card doesn’t have ‘insert tech here’.

What i have learnt is yes AMD might be a bit slower to come to the table on the software side but they tend to arrive in decent shape once the dust settles.

AMD have deep ties to the game development teams and have done for a fair number of years, whatever happens with the AMD version of DLSS/RT it will most likely be in the best interests of the industry as a whole and not just what Nvidia wants to make them money.
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Stop talking common sense its not welcome here Grim et al won't have it!
 
nvidiamd said:
Fastest 3080 is on LN2
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/7525...to-2340mhz-breaks-oc-world-records/index.html
If we exclude that one from the TimeSpy results, there is no 3080 faster than the 6800xt. The 6800xt is already ahead on average score and the difference will grow even bigger. It was more than 100 points below the 3080 a week ago. I told you back then that 6800xt will be ahead 3080 in short time.
The reference 6900xt is a bad design that should not exist. 6800xt reference is a great card, the 6900xt is bad since it has the same cooling and the same TDP. But once AIB cards will come, no one knows how fast they will go. Especially since it seems they will have much higher TDP limit.
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The 3080 is faster than the 6800xt.

https://www.techradar.com/uk/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-6800-xt

Don't buy 6800xt if...
You want ray tracing at 4K
Ray tracing performance on the RX 6800 XT is more than sufficient at 1440p, but if you want to turn those shiny graphics effects on at 4K, your money is better spent on an Nvidia card right now.

You play a lot of DirectX12 games
With current drivers, the AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT falls behind when it comes to DX12 performance, and it just so happens that will likely be the API behind most next-gen games.
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https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-6900-xt/35.html







So the RTX 3080 is close to the 6900xt but the 6900xt lags in RT games by a massive amount.

As with any new GPU launch, there is a lot to discuss, but above all, raw gaming performance is probably what you are most interested in. Starting first with the 1440p numbers, RX 6800 XT is on average 2% slower than the RTX 3080, it is 23% faster than the RTX 3070 and 21% faster than the RTX 2080 Ti. Compared to the Radeon VII, this RDNA 2 GPU delivers 69% better performance, and that increases to 79% when compared to the RX 5700 XT. Up at 4K, 6800 XT is on average 90% faster than the RX 5700 XT and 23% faster than the RTX 3070. Against the RTX 3080, it is 6% slower at this resolution.
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https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/dominic-moass/amd-rx-6800-xt-review/33/
 
If you game at 4K, that’s probably the only justification for the 6900XT over the RTX 3080. That being said, the 3080ti will be out early next year and probably around the same price as the 6900XT.
 
Kaapstad said:
I don't know.

What I do know is I want one, anyone else want to get their hands on one.
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I think that Asus 6900 XT AIO could be the fastest gaming GPU money can buy.

That said, I really like the reference 6900 XT design but if you want to unlock the full power of the 6900 XT, you'll need a AIB version.
 
LtMatt said:
I think that Asus 6900 XT AIO could be the fastest gaming GPU money can buy.

That said, I really like the reference 6900 XT design but if you want to unlock the full power of the 6900 XT, you'll need a AIB version.
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It wont. Overclocked RTX 3090 will easly be the fastest GPU money can buy. The 6900xt wont hit a RTX 3090 on water.

Watercooling on 3090 GPU.
Watercooled https://www.3dmark.com/spy/15366712 Graphics Score 23 331 @ 39c. 2,207 MHz

The fastest 6900xt is https://www.3dmark.com/spy/16192667 and it hits Graphics Score 20 875. This is within RTX 3080 overclocking range.

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/15445197 Intel Core i9-9900KS Processor @ 5GHz NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080
Average clock frequency 2,129 MHz and Average temperature 49 °C. Graphics Score 20 315
The 6900xt overclocked maximum score looks more like the maximum for the RTX 3080. Add water wont make it reach the RTX 3090. Then add the poor RT performance of the 6900xt into the mix. As the reviews point out DX12/u performance is decent but not great.

How do the cards compare, fastest to fastest?

Then take the fastest 6800xt https://www.3dmark.com/spy/15729042
Average clock frequency 2,643 MHz,
Average temperature 57 °C
Graphics Score 20 897

Then take the fastest 6900xt https://www.3dmark.com/spy/16192667
Average clock frequency 2,640 MHz,
Average temperature 73 °C
Graphics Score 20 875

The fastest 6800xt is the same as the fastest 6900xt. The 6900xt is not worth the money. Just like the RTX 3090. RTX 3080 @ 2129MHz is better performance than a 6800xt/6900xt @ 2640MHz.
 
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Performance will go up if the power limit goes up and cooling permits it

Based on other 6900xt card to date, I'd estimate every 50w to provide 3-4% performance improvement (as long as you don't hit the clock wall artificial amd troll cap) - so the 6900xt AIO is going to be 10% faster after max overclocking than the stock reference 6900XT (unless it hits the clock speed wall)
 
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