Anyone pre ordered 12600k and z690 board yet?

[subbytna]

Just look at some standard DDR5 prices here now - almost £300! for 32gig
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...00c40-4800mhz-dual-channel-kit-my-0an-tg.html

"Premium" DDR5 will be north of that cost, when prices are announced.

Never mins the cost of the Alderlake compatible mobos too

Alderlake will be a crazy expensive setup, even though they are touting the CPU's ata decent price apparently. The cost of the DDR5 and new mobos will negate the money savings the lower prices CPUs will have.

£800 for a mobo, cpu and RAM bundle...or more

 

[RavenXXX2]

DDR5 might offer little performance over DDR4 due to high latency, in which case just pick up a DDR4 mobo like I am.

 

[peahead]

DDR5 might offer little performance over DDR4 due to high latency, in which case just pick up a DDR4 mobo like I am.

I am sure i read that some mobo's support both DDR4 / 5 was that correct ?

 

[RavenXXX2]

I am sure i read that some mobo's support both DDR4 / 5 was that correct ?

Not right now, it's one or the other.

 

[Game]

Hello all,

I recently built my gaming pc and thinking about returning my 10400f and b560 chipset, and ordering the 12600kf with a DDR4 z690 board, would cost me £150 to make the jump.

Anyone else thinking of pre ordering?

so you built it and nothing is wrong

so the parts would be returned as used>>??

 

[peahead]

Not right now, it's one or the other.

Ah ok i must have misread it then

 

[turbot1984]

TBH i would have jumped if my rig was 3+ years old. Prices do look steep but there again take an ASUS Hero mobo as an example, I paid £170 for my Z170 version in 2015, check it out in Z690 form

Year on year prices seem to have jumped 20%.
So glad to hang on until I can buy a GPU that actually runs on pcie 5.0 and DDR5 isn't daft money .... mid 2022?

 

[peahead]

The cooler compatibility should be making people hold off. The fact that they haven’t prepared for this, is ridiculous.

Yep exactly i am still waiting to be able to order the new LG1-1700 mounting bracket from be quiet for my Silent loop 2, they are saying it can be ordered beginning November.

Saying that i see some z690 Asus boards have the previous mounting holes as well so it may be possible to mount your current cooler without the need for the mounting kit but how would you know if it going to work and make contact with the CPU correctly.

 

[alexkyriak]

TBH i would have jumped if my rig was 3+ years old. Prices do look steep but there again take an ASUS Hero mobo as an example, I paid £170 for my Z170 version in 2015, check it out in Z690 form

Year on year prices seem to have jumped 20%.
So glad to hang on until I can buy a GPU that actually runs on pcie 5.0 and DDR5 isn't daft money .... mid 2022?

Performance wise, does anyone have an idea as to the likely difference between the above Z690 maximus hero, to the Z690-E model? https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...ntel-z690-ddr5-atx-motherboard-mb-6h7-as.html

 

[turbot1984]

Performance wise, does anyone have an idea as to the likely difference between the above Z690 maximus hero, to the Z690-E model? https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...ntel-z690-ddr5-atx-motherboard-mb-6h7-as.html

Yep! E-Gaming 18+1 power stages. HERO is 20+1
ASUS Z690 series – The best motherboards for 12th Gen Intel Alder Lake CPUs

 

[alexkyriak]

Ah, awesome thanks.

 

[turbot1984]

scrap my earlier 2022 comment ... boss of Nvidia says this about the 4080

 

[THX1138]

Just to many variables for me to even consider a upgrade any time soon and the cost have fun you early adopters.

 

[Shaz12]

All I am interested in is the gaming performance of Alder Lake using DDR4 vs. Zen 3. If they turn out comparable, Zen 3 makes more sense given reasonable prices and less heat/power consumption.

 

[mickyflinn]

All I am interested in is the gaming performance of Alder Lake using DDR4 vs. Zen 3. If they turn out comparable, Zen 3 makes more sense given reasonable prices and less heat/power consumption.

If you play older games apparently Alderlake doesnt work well due to the big core little core design.

https://www.tomshardware.com/amp/news/intel-alder-lake-cpus-may-not-work-with-older-games

 

[alexkyriak]

That doesn't sound good....

 

[jigger]

I think I’ll be looking for more than what’s on offer with Alderlake to move away from AM4 especially with Zen 3D around the corner.

 

[Alan McFall]

Never Pre order it's best to wait until reviews are out.

Great idea by intel to keep embargo upto release date ! Guess they're wanting to keep day one sales low whilst they continue to push software optimisation

 

[Joxeon]

Great idea by intel to keep embargo upto release date ! Guess they're wanting to keep day one sales low whilst they continue to push software optimisation

Was the same for zen 3 as far as I can remember.

 

[Cenuij]

The short answer is YES, big increase in MT performance - I believe on average its 50% faster but can be up to 80% depending on the task

Additionally it has decent headroom for gaining more MT performance with an overclock, you can expect an additional 20% to 30% MT performance with a good overclock and good cooling - at the upper end of this range you begin to surpass the Ryzen 5950x in MT performance

This is the best laugh I've had in years on these boards - some total BS pulled out of ones back passage to claim some random +120% perf gain. And this totally made up BS number is the 5950x slayer (until AMD refresh with layered L3). Too funny by half.