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Anyone who went Quad wished they had stayed with Duo?

Vanilla said:
Mac OSX server :D hahhaha

:confused:

Fantastic OS, works really well as a server, in the design studio at work we have 2 xserver raids and 4 xserve (2 dual g5 and 2 dual xeon) and they are still running on the first working boot up and haven't crashed, needed to reboot or anything.

XS just seems to fiddle about with the hardware and database all the damm time, its REALLY annoying.
 
ergonomics said:
you know EVERY game, whether multithreaded or not will see an improvement, as you can use the other cores to run every other background task

(may not be massive, but its true though)

Not necessarily. If you have a single threaded game, and give it sole access to one core, with all the other processes running on a the second core, then I can't see how a quadcore would make things any faster. Unless all your background processes can max out a core, which isn't going to happen unless you are running apps.
 
HangTime said:
Not necessarily. If you have a single threaded game, and give it sole access to one core, with all the other processes running on a the second core, then I can't see how a quadcore would make things any faster. Unless all your background processes can max out a core, which isn't going to happen unless you are running apps.

im talking about pretty recent games, which i can confidently say make use of dual core fairly well.

so you have the game running on 2 cores, and the rest of the systems crap on the other 2. still, im not saying its like 1000% improvement, but its still a small amount none the less
 
xsnv said:
Not necessarily trure.
Its not just the TDP, they've increased the Tcmax and TCC throttling offset at the same point on the curve. Now maybe later B3s are similar silicon, I'm not about pointless speculating without proof. Just what I can see, the changes give way more headroom and it's factory set. So far they are running cooler and clock better. These values are taken from the latest specs. If they had just tweaked the process and dropped the TDP, the thermal profile would be a little different for the G0.



There is also 35 errata bugs fixed with G0, a laser etched IHS is not a big deal to change the step code.

http://www.intel.com/design/processor/specupdt/315593.htm
 
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The readon i chose a high end core2 over a quad, is because there is NOTHING i use that needs the other 2 cores yet. I have much more use for 2 faster cores than 4 slower cores that are just generating more heat tbh.
 
fornowagain said:
Its not just the TDP, they've increased the Tcmax and TCC throttling offset at the same point on the curve. Now maybe later B3s are similar silicon, I'm not about pointless speculating without proof. Just what I can see, the changes give way more headroom and it's factory set. So far they are running cooler and clock better. These values are taken from the latest specs. If they had just tweaked the process and dropped the TDP, the thermal profile would be a little different for the G0.

from that graph, it seems the latest G0's will run hotter. thus not as good for overclocking? :confused:
 
That's not what this thermal graph shows, it indicates the maximum case (IHS) temperature against power (heat) dissipation. What it means is there is a greater temperature headroom. It doesn't tell you much about the running temperature (apart from TDP), just that it can run hotter without throttling.
 
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After reading the thermal issues and everything else, I just bought the 6850 and it runs sweet in my P5b Deluxe so no regrets here as I didnt buy one :) and im idle at 30/31 and its hot here I bet I couldnt say that for a quad.
 
Rizz said:
After reading the thermal issues and everything else, I just bought the 6850 and it runs sweet in my P5b Deluxe so no regrets here as I didnt buy one :) and im idle at 30/31 and its hot here I bet I couldnt say that for a quad.


Its not the idle temps that matter.

Idle temps mean nothing.
 
Rizz said:
After reading the thermal issues and everything else, I just bought the 6850 and it runs sweet in my P5b Deluxe so no regrets here as I didnt buy one :) and im idle at 30/31 and its hot here I bet I couldnt say that for a quad.

What did you upgrade from mate? Have you noticed much difference? Have you clocked the 6850?

I'm tempted buy the Quad, but got a thing for the 6850 :)
 
I upgraded from a E6300 that done 3 gig but the strap meant 2.8 was realistic, add the fact it only had 2 meg cache, worth it hmm well more worth it over a 4 meg cache chip like say e6600 then probably not, and most people are getting 3.4 1.1 with the 6400 ram I thought it was the way forward. I only installed it today so havent got any clocking done yet but 3.6 should be easy on stock volts (im not one for increasing voltage on a chip to gain a few more mhz) thats what i am clocking straight too.
 
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easyrider said:
Its not the idle temps that matter.

Idle temps mean nothing.

Maybe not but 47c load running orthos means plenty of overclocking headroom on air running my 120 on 7 volts
 
If you follow the "Games actually only need one core" argument, so shouldn't gamers be flocking to buy Celeron 440's? Clocks to 4.5GHz, single core so it runs very cool.

No? Why? Because it's 'only' a Celeron. And most people can't stomach their e-penis being lopped off in public by saying "I run a Celeron".

If your requirement is for games that only use one core, buy a very fast single core CPU. If the use you need is truly multi-threaded then Quad is the way every time.
 
There is nothing wrong with a quad apart from a lot of people might need to invest in watercooling, a route I dont want to go down, the titles that will use quad dont interest me at all, I Play Forgoten battles and counter strike, I dont fold anymore, so the quad seem pointless for me, I want 3.6 which can be achieved with Air. I doubt anyone will regret the quad but cooling may be an issue for higher clocks.
 
WJA96 said:
If you follow the "Games actually only need one core" argument, so shouldn't gamers be flocking to buy Celeron 440's? Clocks to 4.5GHz, single core so it runs very cool.

No? Why? Because it's 'only' a Celeron. And most people can't stomach their e-penis being lopped off in public by saying "I run a Celeron".

If your requirement is for games that only use one core, buy a very fast single core CPU. If the use you need is truly multi-threaded then Quad is the way every time.



tbh
 
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