Anything 50% faster than 1080 ti?

[subbytna]

and i very much doubt the next round of cards will be either

Correct, we're taking about Nvidia afterall

lol, door stop chips !


The categories in my head would be like this:
Titan - enthusiast level
1080 and TI - high end

1070 and 980 Ti - high end of mid range (!)

1060 and below can fit into another 2, 3 categories

The ranges are getting difficult to set with so many cards to choose from.

Whatever drives your own setup at good quality is high end to you anyway. So, let's focus less on defining ranges and more on playing those bad ass games ..

These days you can't really start to use the card prefixes to determine what "range" they are now, thanks to Nvidia.

EG

Back in the day the GTX480 (home heating card) was high end flagship
Then the 580 was basically a "fixed 480" with the lack of heating problems

...in fact Jim explains it perfectly here. Saves me repeating what he said.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j6TiSdKT0A


then here


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd1bp9eSfwo

Ever since the GTX780 Nvidia have moved the performance goal post, whilst keeping the same naming prefixes to fool you into thinking you're high end with a card ending in **80, when in fact that hasn't been the case since before the GTX780

 

[robin66]

I miss my two 480's I had in Sli. They would keep my bedroom lovely and warm in the winter.

I'd even have to open my window a little bit during some cold nights.

 

[BubbySoup]

I miss my two 480's I had in Sli. They would keep my bedroom lovely and warm in the winter.

I'd even have to open my window a little bit during some cold nights.

You don't know the meaning of real heat until you go AMD

 

[jigger]

You don't know the meaning of real heat until you go AMD

The GeForce 780Ti would take some beating on heat.

 

[Marine-RX179]

You don't know the meaning of real heat until you go AMD

Na. Nothing really dethrone the GTX480 for single GPU card when it comes the heat. You must have forgotten about the egg frying meme:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=f...mafWAhXD1BoKHVs6D-IQ_AUICygC&biw=1376&bih=674

There's no declining performance wise the GTX480 was beast in its time though."With great power comes great responsibility (in taking your clothes off )".

 

[Marine-RX179]

mispost ignore.

 

[Gerard]

Na. Nothing really dethrone the GTX480 for single GPU card when it comes the heat. You must have forgotten about the egg frying meme:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=f...mafWAhXD1BoKHVs6D-IQ_AUICygC&biw=1376&bih=674

That meme to me never made much sense, there were cards from both amd and nvidia previous to the 480 that could easily hit mid 90c range.

 

[spoffle]

So if a 1080 is a mid-range chip, does that mean the 1070 is a low-range with the Titan being the high-end. What does that make the 1060 and below are they door stop chips?

1070 and 1080 are mid-range, as they are literally in the middle of the range. That's how that works. The 1060s are low mid range.

 

[spoffle]

lol, door stop chips !


The categories in my head would be like this:
Titan - enthusiast level
1080 and TI - high end

1070 and 980 Ti - high end of mid range (!)

1060 and below can fit into another 2, 3 categories

The ranges are getting difficult to set with so many cards to choose from.

Whatever drives your own setup at good quality is high end to you anyway. So, let's focus less on defining ranges and more on playing those bad ass games ..

Enthusiast isn't a tier, and high end isn't subjective. A 1060 isn't high end just because it does everything you want.

 

[spoffle]

That meme to me never made much sense, there were cards from both amd and nvidia previous to the 480 that could easily hit mid 90c range.

This is because chip temperature and thermal output aren't the same thing.

You can have 2 chips running at 90 Celsius, but there isn't anything that suggests they're outputting the same amount of heat. Referencing the core temperature is literally just a measure of the chip's surface temperature. It doesn't say anything about how much heat the heatsink is dissipating.

 

[AiiR]

It also didn't help that the 480s stock heatsink resembled a George foreman grill..

 

[crinkleshoes]

It's not that many years ago when you could easily expect the next round of cards to well over 50% faster. If peeps stopped buying all this "drip drip" improvement then they would soon get the message that 10% or 20% just isn't good enough.

Huh? The 1080ti IS about 50% faster than the 980ti...

or are you trying to compare the "high-end" 980ti to the "mid-range" 1080?

I fully expect the Titan Xv and 1180ti to be 40-50% faster than the 1080ti... all you have to do is look at the spec for the Volta compute card that's already been announced to see what the full fat Titan Xv will be.

 

[spoffle]

Huh? The 1080ti IS about 50% faster than the 980ti...

or are you trying to compare the "high-end" 980ti to the "mid-range" 1080?

I fully expect the Titan Xv and 1180ti to be 40-50% faster than the 1080ti... all you have to do is look at the spec for the Volta compute card that's already been announced to see what the full fat Titan Xv will be.

Yeah, I was thinking that too. Though I'm sure at UHD the Titan X/1080 Ti is more than 50% faster. I've just moved from a 980Ti to a Titan Xp and in some of the games I play my FPS has more than doubled.

 

[D.P.]

Na. Nothing really dethrone the GTX480 for single GPU card when it comes the heat. You must have forgotten about the egg frying meme:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=f...mafWAhXD1BoKHVs6D-IQ_AUICygC&biw=1376&bih=674

There's no declining performance wise the GTX480 was beast in its time though."With great power comes great responsibility (in taking your clothes off )".

The funny thing is the 480 pulled 220watts in average gaming, Vega 64 pull 300w!

 

[D.P.]

Yeah, I was thinking that too. Though I'm sure at UHD the Titan X/1080 Ti is more than 50% faster. I've just moved from a 980Ti to a Titan Xp and in some of the games I play my FPS has more than doubled.

1080ti is much more than 50% faster than a 980ti:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1080_Ti_Lightning_Z/29.html

Look at 1440p as a middle ground not so CPU limited result:
980ti: 54%
Vanilla 1080ti: 93%
decent AIB 1080ti: 100%


The regular 1080ti is 100*93/54 = 72.2% faster than a 980ti
The good AIB 1080ti is 100*100/54 = 85.2% faster



Just don;t let facts get in the way of a god NVidia rant. The plain fact is the jump from amxwell to Pascal is actaully a larger increase in performance than the average gains seen between generations over the last 10+ years.

 

[Griffildur]

Enthusiast isn't a tier, and high end isn't subjective. A 1060 isn't high end just because it does everything you want.

ok, so what's your ranking then?

 

[crinkleshoes]

1080ti is much more than 50% faster than a 980ti:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1080_Ti_Lightning_Z/29.html

Look at 1440p as a middle ground not so CPU limited result:
980ti: 54%
Vanilla 1080ti: 93%
decent AIB 1080ti: 100%


The regular 1080ti is 100*93/54 = 72.2% faster than a 980ti
The good AIB 1080ti is 100*100/54 = 85.2% faster



Just don;t let facts get in the way of a god NVidia rant. The plain fact is the jump from amxwell to Pascal is actaully a larger increase in performance than the average gains seen between generations over the last 10+ years.

Exactly... it's a decent jump...

Going by the Tesla... for the next jump we are seeing an increase in CUDA cores of 3584 -> 5120 or 43%

Depending on clock speeds, various efficiency gains, memory bandwidth and other things... we could easily be seeing another 40-60% speed bump.

Nvidia are doing really well at the moment... it's a shame AMDATi can't keep up.

 

[crinkleshoes]

ok, so what's your ranking then?

The rating is related to the chip involved... which is essentially how much of the full size chip has been chopped off to make a smaller part.

980ti is the high-end of the previous generation... which now happens to perform similarly to the lower-mid range of the current generation (1070)

1080 is the mid-range part, which is 2/3 of the full-size chip.
1070 is also mid-range, also 2/3 of the full-size chip but with a portion disabled.

1060 is low-end

1050 is entry-level

Titan is "crazy person with money to burn-level" (says the guy with 2 of them)

 

[Jimmy Weirdarms]

I think your Titan-craziness has shifted your sights somewhat. I'd definitely say a 1080 is a high-end GFX card - especially as it was the flagship when the range launched. 1060 & 1070 are mid-range, IMHO.

 

[ubersonic]

I think your Titan-craziness has shifted your sights somewhat. I'd definitely say a 1080 is a high-end GFX card - especially as it was the flagship when the range launched. 1060 & 1070 are mid-range, IMHO.

Nvidia have sort of skewed things in recent years with the resurrection of the Ti moniker. These days instead of just releasing a GPU range they release the mid to low range first then release the high end later so that the midrange look more premium (and they can charge more for it). They started doing this with the 600 series because they didn't need the high end chips to match AMD's lineup, then they released the high end chips as the 780/780ti.