Apple Interview

Seems to me the apple store is a bit like a new age games workshop, a place for nerds to hang out without buying anything. Personally I've visited the apple store twice, once to see the Mac book aire when it was first released and then to see the iPad. The crazy number of people in the place just toying with stuff irritates me, it's not like most of them are going to buy anything!
 
Don't get me wrong, I like Apple products and some of the things they have brought to the table are amazing (mainly the ipad / iphone range).

But...

You can't deny that you are paying more because of the fact it looks pretty and is fashionable. If you we're going by specs vs price alone you'd end up with an Acer.

There not the only ones doing it, HP are desperately trying to get into that market with the Voodoo range and now the Envy models but they will always be limited by the fact it comes with Windows, which while I think is great doesn't have the marketing buzz behind it like Apples OS.

I work for HP so I'm probably a little biased but I'm currently writing this on a Envy 13 which has a beautiful screen, amazing battery and styling yet I can do absolutely anything I want to do with Windows 7. No limitations.

Anyway gone off point, to the OP the main thing Apple will be looking for is someone is naturally confident and therefore projects confidence into peoples minds when buying their products. They can give you all the technical jargon later but if a salesman (which a genius is) seems shy or hesitant your not going to buy his goods.
 
I've not read much of the thread so it might have already been said:

Your looks probably come into play a fair bit here too. I'd imagine in an Apple store they'd generally only hire attractive people, to keep the company image up. Its not legal i know, but I'd bet money that'd be the case.
 
Your looks probably come into play a fair bit here too. I'd imagine in an Apple store they'd generally only hire attractive people, to keep the company image up. Its not legal i know, but I'd bet money that'd be the case.
You been into any of their stores? I wouldn't describe any of them as 'lookers'. Not by any stretch. Manchester Arndale, Trafford, etc.
 
Retail jobs of this sort aren't really like hiring for a lot of jobs.

There's a lot of importance on whether or not you fit the feel of the store, whether you'll fit in with the other staff, blah blah, loads of stuff.

Knowledge-wise you'll find a very big variety in the stores, from pretty much encyclopaedic levels to just the bare minimum.

As it happens, often the people with much less in-depth knowledge can demo and actually sell a Mac way better than the people that know everything, but then there's a certain kind of customer who just has a load of questions and that's where the geekier types come in.

So in all... it might just be that they don't like the cut of your jib, or the way you act, or think you don't fit the brand, or won't fit in the store you applied for, or a million things.

I won't go into my opinions about working there really. In some ways I miss it loads, and in some ways I'm so glad I'm not there any more, but that's neither here nor there. Working there doesn't suit everyone but I had some great experiences and met some fantastic people in my time there.
 
Don't get me wrong, I like Apple products and some of the things they have brought to the table are amazing (mainly the ipad / iphone range).

But...

You can't deny that you are paying more because of the fact it looks pretty and is fashionable. If you we're going by specs vs price alone you'd end up with an Acer.

There not the only ones doing it, HP are desperately trying to get into that market with the Voodoo range and now the Envy models but they will always be limited by the fact it comes with Windows, which while I think is great doesn't have the marketing buzz behind it like Apples OS.

I work for HP so I'm probably a little biased but I'm currently writing this on a Envy 13 which has a beautiful screen, amazing battery and styling yet I can do absolutely anything I want to do with Windows 7. No limitations.

Anyway gone off point, to the OP the main thing Apple will be looking for is someone is naturally confident and therefore projects confidence into peoples minds when buying their products. They can give you all the technical jargon later but if a salesman (which a genius is) seems shy or hesitant your not going to buy his goods.
We bought 2 HP 13" laptops. (Life books or something?)

The fan failed on one and the headphone jack failed on the other. We sent them both back and got Sonys.

Do HP use different grades/ quality components in their different ranges?
 
Wow people actually "hang out" at a retail store? As mentioned earlier this is like the Games Workshops that people used to hand around in - how weird.

I also can't see why what is essentially a retail job on pretty low pay would be so attractive? I wonder if Dixons has the same problem with people fighting to get themselves a job there :p
 
What's a logic board? Certainly isn't a standard term. Probably an Apple-specific term.

In PC speak it's a motherboard. Logic board is probably a better description for the Apple method of design however. Other big companies such eg IBM and Compaq (now HP) call it a system planar.

Back on topic ... The more I've read this week about the Apple Stores, the more it reminds me of PC World circa 1998. My advice is to avoid as a career choice.
 
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Wait a minute....you mean you can actually buy Apple products in these shops? I always thought it was full of people who wanted to use the internet or play games on the iphone/ipad!

Ive been in these shops (London) and none of the sales staff ever bother to approach people. They just mooch around in a corner until someone hunts them down for their technical expertise.
 
Just out of curiosity what did you have to talk about in the seminar/discussions?

We signed an agreement not to say, But it's basically what you would expect when attending a job seminar - discussions, more about the job etc.

By the way, I am not a troll. Just genuinely interested for some advice.

thanks for the comments given guys.
 
To be fair, the OP seems to have a very unhealthy obsession with Apple and that store particularly.

Why would you be proud to work in an Apple store? Surely the pay isn't really anything to write home about?

If you were working on designing their latest products or drawing up their marketing plans to support product launches, I could understand having pride in that.

I would imagine working in an Apple store is similar to being a nursery worker and security guard rolled into one, as I only ever see kids going in to play with the demonstration models. :confused: :p
 
Seems to me the apple store is a bit like a new age games workshop, a place for nerds to hang out without buying anything. Personally I've visited the apple store twice, once to see the Mac book aire when it was first released and then to see the iPad. The crazy number of people in the place just toying with stuff irritates me, it's not like most of them are going to buy anything!

Did you buy anything?
 
"Seminar" for a salesman job lol.


Believe it fella.

When I decided I wanted to move into sales I applied for a couple of jobs that ended up with this bull**** , loads of applicants meeting at hotels taking part in pathetic group activities and unrelated nonsense for jobs that many would consider to be quite lowly positions.
I went in for these thinking I would need to get some grounding and experience as sales are not something I've had great deal of experience of in the past.

I didnt get any of these basic sales jobs, and was thinking I was going to be stuck driving a lorry or van for the rest of my working life, when I got asked to interview for the job I have now which formal title is Vehicle sale opperations manager.

I dont know the point of these seminars, after attending them the three companies I applied to decided I'm not good enough to work as a front line salesman, but a far bigger company than I have ever interviewed for in the past decides I am good enough to run a whole sales team, off the back of a one to one interview with the regional manager for the area.

So to the OP I wouldnt be too bothered, they have a quite specific type they want to employ, just think of it as failing the entrance exam for the Hitler Youth and consider yourself lucky.
 
I suppose it's part a psychological game.

Mabye, I think they are looking for people who are easily managed and dont like to think too much.
I Imagine if they see someone with a bit of imagination and drive they think that you are likely to bin their 17.5k shop sales job as soon as something else turns up.

They are right as well, because as soon as something better turned up I would have been after it.
 
I was thinking of the iPhone coming out without MMS in the first incarnation and everyone being told it wasn't necessary, then suddenly it's in the second generation (3G?) and it's brilliant... or no video recorder until the iPhone 4 and when introduced amazingly it's just the thing to revolutionise the phone market...

That was a company bowing down to pressure but they certainly didn't claim they'd revolutionised the market with these two ommissions when they eventually added them.

Or marketing an mp3 player as the "Shuffle" - as if the feature is in any way new or exciting. I don't know what features the original iPod had but the naming of one product Shuffle rather suggests that this feature wasn't present?

Once again you got this totally wrong.
All IPods have shuffled but the 'Shuffle' could only shuffle.
Apple never claimed they had invented the shuffle technology.
 
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