Was waiting that reply. They also for the most part fully explain their testing so it is possible to reproduce - there might well be some bias with some of them and/or avoiding areas to show a product in a better light but when they do straight up tests like this if they fudged the numbers other people would be very quick to pick them up on it.
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Apple locks NVidia GPUs out of new operating system Mojave
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Was waiting that reply. They also for the most part fully explain their testing so it is possible to reproduce - there might well be some bias with some of them and/or avoiding areas to show a product in a better light but when they do straight up tests like this if they fudged the numbers other people would be very quick to pick them up on it.
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Which drivers to compare, which games? There's plenty Nvidia owners on the forum, why would we need a YouTube video to prove it either way?
apple to push their own gpus over the next few years?
or tim cook to rummage down the back of the sofa for some spare change and buy AMD . what would it cost to buy AMD lock stock and barrel? 30 billion dollars on a good day? apple has 10 times that sitting in cold hard cash
or tim cook to rummage down the back of the sofa for some spare change and buy AMD . what would it cost to buy AMD lock stock and barrel? 30 billion dollars on a good day? apple has 10 times that sitting in cold hard cash
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It was a 1080ti user on this forum who first brought it to my attention. A later driver gave him the lost performance back.
Would be interesting if Apple moved on AMD's GPU side - I don't think they would though unless there was enough money in it for them to pretty much remove AMD from the PC graphics space - I can't see them having an interest in maintaining GPUs for Windows systems.
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Apple used to make their own hardware and it was rubbish. I doubt they want to go back to it.
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Ahh DM still banging the Maxwell got gimped in Witcher 3 drum. It wasn't Maxwell, it was Kepler that had issues in TW3.
you guys do realise AMDs current market cap is in the region of 20 billion? add a chunk on to tempt shareholders and AMD could easily go to apple for 25-30 billion.
can imagine it would be a good option for apple to have a tame cpu/gpu manufacturer under its wing. how it would affect amds other stuff like consoles and the desktop computer market who knows but would be a serious worry for both Nvidia and intel if AMD suddenly had access to apples wealth and backing. maybe the plans to use arm based processors to replace intel chips by 2020 isnt going as planned and this would give them a drop in option for both cpu and gpu and a wealth of tech and knowledge on hand for other stuff like phones and tablet chips dev
can imagine it would be a good option for apple to have a tame cpu/gpu manufacturer under its wing. how it would affect amds other stuff like consoles and the desktop computer market who knows but would be a serious worry for both Nvidia and intel if AMD suddenly had access to apples wealth and backing. maybe the plans to use arm based processors to replace intel chips by 2020 isnt going as planned and this would give them a drop in option for both cpu and gpu and a wealth of tech and knowledge on hand for other stuff like phones and tablet chips dev
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Hah. I know Apple fell out with Nvidia a long time ago and seems they still havn't forgotten it. Give 'em a good kick in the nuts!
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Hardware Unboxed did a video 'GTX 780 How the mighty has fallen' to show how the 290/390 outperformed it in modern games on high settings but in a recent video they showed the 780 actually held it's own and edged it out on medium settings.
Not that any of that is to do with 'gimping drivers' necessarily.
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Well that bust your theory straight away, didn't it.
What are you talking about. I said in my post how it went. The release 2080 driver gimped the 1080ti and a later driver gave the 1080ti the performance back. Maybe you should try reading.
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I actually had to read back to why this thread went that way. It's because Apple also gimp there hardware
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So, performance was affected in a single driver, and Nvidia subsequently rectified the issue. How is that gimping drivers? That's a software bug.
780 is a complicated one and I've rarely seen reviewers get numbers that compare to actual use of the cards - there is also a potential ~20% difference between the A1 stepping cores and later B1s.
The 700 series cards were/are quite broken in various Vulkan benchmarks as well so for awhile if things like Doom factored heavily in the benchmark results they could suffer - more recently Doom is less prominent in testing and the Vulkan support has been improved a bit (though still not great on the 700 series) which has helped them to pick up a bit of ground in cumulative testing.