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Apple M1 CPU
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Mark Gurman (of Bloomberg, the guy Apple "leaks" their info to), says chips with up to 32 performance cores are coming.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ac-chips-with-aim-to-outclass-highest-end-pcs
Also GPU cores will likely scale up to 128 cores (M1 has 8 cores), probably in a dedicated GPU.
These are likely for the next Mac Pro, coming in 2022.
Next spring we'll see higher-end chips for Macbook Pro and iMac. Then another series of releases later in the year.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ac-chips-with-aim-to-outclass-highest-end-pcs
Also GPU cores will likely scale up to 128 cores (M1 has 8 cores), probably in a dedicated GPU.
These are likely for the next Mac Pro, coming in 2022.
Next spring we'll see higher-end chips for Macbook Pro and iMac. Then another series of releases later in the year.
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So curious about what they are trying to do with the graphics cores as well.
I’m sure the M1 actually could do some decent light gaming already, but obviously we need compatibility with the new architecture to catch up first before we see the mainstream games on it.
I’m sure the M1 actually could do some decent light gaming already, but obviously we need compatibility with the new architecture to catch up first before we see the mainstream games on it.
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Apple always seemed so against gaming, their graphic cores will mostly be related to editing and that sort of thing more than gaming I feel
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Now this is what I want to see! Would love to see a comparison between a mac pro and a threadripper to see how it is. I had a feeling that apple would only do 32cores seeing as their current top mac pro currently is 28 cores.
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Enough to stop me getting a 5970X 
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probably not.
?probably not.
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Just an intel limitation in general haha!
Still, knowing how ridiculous the threadrippers are, thats where the real comparison lies in my opinion.
Charlie says his sources know that the M2 CPU will be great!
"We all know about the Apple M1 CPU, but what can we expect from next year’s M2 CPU? SemiAccurate has talked to a bunch of insiders and found out some interesting details about the next fruit-themed laptop part.
The current M1 is a slightly tarted up A14 or about what you would expect it to be. This isn’t to say it is a bad chip, far from it, it is a very good CPU but it doesn’t break any ground. The next Apple laptop CPU, likely called the M2, and it’s A15 ‘device’ counterpart are said to be the ‘real deal’. When questioned on that comment, SemiAccurate’s sources said that it would significantly outperform Intel’s current high end Skylake parts and do so at a small fraction of the power."
Apple gets creative with their upcoming CPUs - SemiAccurate
"We all know about the Apple M1 CPU, but what can we expect from next year’s M2 CPU? SemiAccurate has talked to a bunch of insiders and found out some interesting details about the next fruit-themed laptop part.
The current M1 is a slightly tarted up A14 or about what you would expect it to be. This isn’t to say it is a bad chip, far from it, it is a very good CPU but it doesn’t break any ground. The next Apple laptop CPU, likely called the M2, and it’s A15 ‘device’ counterpart are said to be the ‘real deal’. When questioned on that comment, SemiAccurate’s sources said that it would significantly outperform Intel’s current high end Skylake parts and do so at a small fraction of the power."
Apple gets creative with their upcoming CPUs - SemiAccurate
M2 vs Zen 4 should be interesting.
If Intel (now they are waking up to AMD finally) and AMD can be competitive with Apple, we might be back in the early Pentium days of massive performance improvements every year. It would seem ridiculous now that in 3 years a budget celeron could be matching a top end core i9 from now, but that's how it used to be 20 years ago...
This one wasn't just some selective benchmarking (which everyone does, of course), they ran the mobile CPU on a board with no power/thermal limits for their tests, also swapped between 16GB MBP and 8GB MBA depending on which suited them best, and then for battery life tests chose an entirely different chip on a low-powered Acer laptop with a 1080p display, then tested Netflix (which surely plays a different stream on the Macbook versus the SDR display on Acer). Intel pulled the same thing against AMD. Chose different hardware for various tests and paired AMD products with worse parts.
And generally, Intel gloating that after 40 years of CPU design, their highest-end ultrabook chip that they sell for $425 barely matching the performance of the lowest-end first-generation Apple Mac chip isn't exactly a vote of confidence in Intel.
It's just the usual old marketing and spin. They all done it. I wouldn't be getting all worked up about it.
Intel has been struggling vs AMD lately never mind Apple.
https://youtu.be/y_jw38QD5qY
I'm looking forward to what Apple does next with the M2 etc. Will it be as restricted as the M1 with regards to Ram, and GPU. Hopefully not.
Thing is tho it works, people don't analyse the details, they just look at the slides and take them at face value. Its why Apple and AMD should do the same.... have everyone doing it, then they are all sending out the same message. "we are better than X and Y"
If your workflow is in Apple eco system is doesn't matter that their hardware is slower than a Windows box. You'll still stay within the Apple eco system. That was always the case. Same in reverse with Intel.
With the M1 unless what you do fits the use case of 13" laptop and/ integrated graphics and 16gb of ram and limited displays of the Mini then you won't be able to use them either. If you can do everything you need on a Air or Mini then happy days.
M1 is a game changer no doubt, but real deal will be what happens with the M2.
Until then the benchmarks from Apple or Intel don't interest me. As I do almost none of the tasks they are benchmarking.
With the M1 unless what you do fits the use case of 13" laptop and/ integrated graphics and 16gb of ram and limited displays of the Mini then you won't be able to use them either. If you can do everything you need on a Air or Mini then happy days.
M1 is a game changer no doubt, but real deal will be what happens with the M2.
Until then the benchmarks from Apple or Intel don't interest me. As I do almost none of the tasks they are benchmarking.
I mean they surely can, and already do to a degree, especially when they're backed into a corner. I just find Intel's marketing to be the most dishonest these days.
M1 is really as you say, first gen stuff in low-end products with limitations (very good but still integrated GPU, I/O and ram limits, etc). They said the transition takes 2 years and we're only 8 months into it. So I'm expecting a lot more stuff to come in the next 18 months.
I personally care about code compiling and M1 has been amazing at that, I'm only waiting for the 16-inch MBP with 64GB of ram and for docker to be properly released for M1 before asking my employer to buy one for me
People who buy Apple Laptop's are a different crowed to people who Buy Asus Laptop's, its not as if people who don't normally pay £1000 for a 13" Laptop are now going to on mass because Apple has a new CPU.
The only thing about it is Intel don't supply the CPU's anymore.
The only thing about it is Intel don't supply the CPU's anymore.
I mean they surely can, and already do to a degree, especially when they're backed into a corner. I just find Intel's marketing to be the most dishonest these days.
M1 is really as you say, first gen stuff in low-end products with limitations (very good but still integrated GPU, I/O and ram limits, etc). They said the transition takes 2 years and we're only 8 months into it. So I'm expecting a lot more stuff to come in the next 18 months.
I personally care about code compiling and M1 has been amazing at that, I'm only waiting for the 16-inch MBP with 64GB of ram and for docker to be properly released for M1 before asking my employer to buy one for me
This was AMD's Zen 3 marketing slide, the are comparing it to thier own products, if AMD were Intel the competitors CPU here would have been a 4690K and you would only know that by clicking through a link in the small print to an obfuscated web page.