Apple vs Samsung, court orders Samsung to show Apple 5 new phones

Glaucus said:
Most of these patents are a certain way, so they should still be able to do stuff, they just have to go through a different process tree to get there. Vital patents for functionality that can't be worked around should be covered by FRAND.
Problem is the patent system, which apple and others have said needs changing. But until then it's business as usuall.
Click to expand...

That's the thing. That doesn't seem to be the case. Read the patent.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20407/ocuk/US8086604.pdf

Go through the claims.

The patent just seems to cover all heuristics which achieve their claims utilising a wide list of sources. It isn't some code they are patenting.

Like I said before, such vague "ideas" shouldn't be patentable.
 
Last edited:
englishpremier said:
No they are not.

What you mean is that their publicly available shares when added up cost more that any other company. That doesn't actually mean anything.

Just look at Facebook.

Samsung is a larger company than Apple. It has greater assets, greater revenue, grater range, etc..
Click to expand...

Debatable.
Samsung project $40B profit, Apple obtained $40B profit (Q2, 2012) - until there's something concrete from Samsung we won't know for sure, but i doubt its going to be much higher then their estimates.

Anyway, thats for another discussion.
 
UK Judge rules against Apple in the same 4 patent affair (it's being tried on 4 continents)

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...-t-infringe-apple-patents-u-k-judge-says.html

Common sense in the UK, he dismissed 3 of the 4 as not even valid, and the 1 that was valid, HTC weren't infringing..

Are Apple not trying the search/number replacement patents in the UK yet? Be interesting to see how that would turn out over here.
 
Last edited:
Demon said:
UK Judge rules against Apple in the same 4 patent affair (it's being tried on 4 continents)

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...-t-infringe-apple-patents-u-k-judge-says.html

Common sense in the UK, he dismissed 3 of the 4 as not even valid, and the 1 that was valid, HTC weren't infringing..

Are Apple not trying the search/number replacement patents in the UK yet? Be interesting to see how that would turn out over here.
Click to expand...

Ah, good to see some common sense at last! :)



*apple will bribe the courts here now as well*

:p

mrk said:
Feel bad for Apple now, they actually have to compete legitimately!



:p
Click to expand...

haha :D


That will be the day! :eek: They will go back to what they do best (as well), copying android etc. and make it out like they thought of the features all by themselves and that they are years ahead of everyone else.......

:p
 
Last edited:
HTC Win

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18709232

Instead it re-issued an earlier statement, saying: "We think competition is healthy, but competitors should create their own original technology, not steal ours."
Click to expand...

But hold on Apple
The judge said that HTC's "arc unlock" feature - which also involves a predefined gesture along a path shown on-screen - would have infringed Apple's technology had it not been for a device released in 2004.

The Neonode N1 showed a padlock on its screen with the words "right sweep to unlock" when it was in its protected mode. A later version replaced the text with an arrow.

The judge said it would have been an "obvious" improvement for the developers to have offered users visual feedback in the form of a "slider" in the way that Apple later used.

He added that the concept of a "slider" was not new since it had already appeared in Microsoft's CE system.
Click to expand...

It almost looks like YOU stole the idea lol

Oh they make Jesus cry, they really do...
 
As we reported previously, the Galaxy Nexus is scheduled to return to the Play Store — with Android 4.1 Jelly Bean — next week. We've reached out to Google for further comment.
Click to expand...

Love it, so Apple goes to all the trouble of getting an Injunction and Google get around it by putting the new software on it.

Touche.

link
 
Personally, if it was me in charge, I wouldn't have changed it until forced to by the courts like Google have. No way would I go around pandering to the likes of Apple and changing my product because Apple state that it a patent infringement. Apple don't decide this, the courts do.
 
Richie said:
Personally, if it was me in charge, I wouldn't have changed it until forced to by the courts like Google have. No way would I go around pandering to the likes of Apple and changing my product because Apple state that it a patent infringement. Apple don't decide this, the courts do.
Click to expand...

That just sounds like a case of cutting off your nose to spite your face. Google have been damaged as a result of this infringement.
 
No not really. If you had a product to sell and a competitor told you it breached their patent and you had better change it, would you just do it without question which may be to your products detriment and possibly lose business or would you challenge it?

Why would Google let one of their biggest competitors dictate how they should build their products?

Also, I'm not sure if it's on purpose or not but by not bowing down to Apple until the courts are involved helps highlight the ridiculousness of the US patent system.




Edit - HTC didn't sit back and let Apple dictate how they should build their products. They let it go to the courts and they won their case for all 4 supposed patent infringements in the UK
 
Last edited:
.The Galaxy tablet doesn’t infringe Apple’s registered design, Judge Colin Birss said in a ruling today in London. He said that consumers weren’t likely to get the two tablet computers mixed up.The Galaxy tablets “do not have the same understated and extreme simplicity which is possessed by the Apple design,” Birss said. “They are not as cool.”
Click to expand...

Good to see some common sense from our courts.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom