How do FRAND patents come about? Is it possible for some of these patents to be forced to be changed to FRAND?
Apple vs Samsung, court orders Samsung to show Apple 5 new phones
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How do FRAND patents come about? Is it possible for some of these patents to be forced to be changed to FRAND?
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Well pinch and zoom is an aspect of the OS, so the software infringement is going to be on all the handsets that have an OS which has the feature, I've only used GB to JB and my GB had it.
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You have to imagine they'll go after every Android smart phone manufacturer in every region now they've got this ammunition behind them
Meh, they really are the most pathetic company ever, they may win the case in court but people are getting ****ed at what they are doing (even some of the ones that like Apple) and are refusing to buy their products now due to their stupid patents "has a rectangle shape, is thin, light, oh and we have icons, which use certain symbols like a music note, ZOMG!!! Sue everyone who dares to copy our unique features!!!!" 
Apple don't innovate at all and they haven't for a while and most likely won't until their sales decrease completely or/and they go bankrupt again and Microsoft will probably bail them out again (let's hope they don't!
). Can't wait to see the the iphone 5 and how much of it will be more or less the same as the 4s......
Apple don't innovate at all and they haven't for a while and most likely won't until their sales decrease completely or/and they go bankrupt again and Microsoft will probably bail them out again (let's hope they don't!
). Can't wait to see the the iphone 5 and how much of it will be more or less the same as the 4s......
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You have to imagine they'll go after every Android smart phone manufacturer in every region now they've got this ammunition behind them
I doubt any other region have a jury as stupid as america but it is scary :S, I was 100% sure after they brought those old school devices using the same exact thing I thought it would be thrown out for sure.
Meh, they really are the most pathetic company ever, they may win the case in court but people are getting ****ed at what they are doing (even some of the ones that like Apple) and are refusing to buy their products now due to their stupid patents "has a rectangle shape, is thin, light, oh and we have icons, which use certain symbols like a music note, ZOMG!!! Sue everyone who dares to copy our unique features!!!!"
Except that just isnt the case, they increased there sales yet again in the USA last qaurter. Infant they gained market share and android lost 6% market share last quarter in the USA.
The people who care are a tiny minority on such forums as these, the public really doesn't care. It's no different to the "hate " that Microsoft use to get in its patent wars of the late 90s and we all know how that affected the sales.
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The numbers I saw for last quarter showed that apples sells dipped and was way under expectation due to everyone waiting for the iPhone 5.
Source please because everything I read said Android gained market share last quarter in the US.
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Meh, they really are the most pathetic company ever, they may win the case in court but people are getting ****ed at what they are doing (even some of the ones that like Apple) and are refusing to buy their products now due to their stupid patents "has a rectangle shape, is thin, light, oh and we have icons, which use certain symbols like a music note, ZOMG!!! Sue everyone who dares to copy our unique features!!!!"
Apple don't innovate at all and they haven't for a while and most likely won't until their sales decrease completely or/and they go bankrupt again and Microsoft will probably bail them out again (let's hope they don't!
You just described my Sony W880i.
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I have a feeling that it was more of a cause of america vs Korea
This.
Exactly what it is. The jury members we chanting U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A, as they decided on the verdicts. This just makes the yanks look even more stupid than people thought they were.
They gained markets hare world wide.
Or perhaps it was q1-q2 stats you had.
Thanks. Interesting bit of info that. It maybe that I was not looking at isolated Q2 stats then
What's more interesting is despite a drop in sales, apple was the only one that grew.
Blackberry is abut to go extinct. We all know windows is releasing new Os and phones. But I haven't heard anything from blackberry recently. What are they doing?
Re: pinch to zoom
Some handset/software providers already license it (Microsoft being the obvious one ) , Cook offered Samsung the chance to license it.. They showed Apple the finger so to speak.
So no it won't mean all android handsets will be banned, not even close, Samsung just has to pay or come up with another idea (such as a zoom in toggle with slide up on the screen to go in, down to zoom out)
Not a pretty work around, but it does the job.
Equally the bounce back patent, MS license it as do some Android providers, IIRC the Nexus 7 uses a different method all together. Samsung too can come up with a different idea - hell why not just copy Googles idea? I'm sure they will let them considering.
Re: multitouch in general - remember Apple were working and applying for patents in this area as early as 02/03. Patents are just granted really slowly, it's entirely possible other phones with this functions launched before the iPhone technically infringe on Apples patent. It's situations like this the court has to differentiate between infringing and wilfull infringing.
Some handset/software providers already license it (Microsoft being the obvious one ) , Cook offered Samsung the chance to license it.. They showed Apple the finger so to speak.
So no it won't mean all android handsets will be banned, not even close, Samsung just has to pay or come up with another idea (such as a zoom in toggle with slide up on the screen to go in, down to zoom out)
Not a pretty work around, but it does the job.
Equally the bounce back patent, MS license it as do some Android providers, IIRC the Nexus 7 uses a different method all together. Samsung too can come up with a different idea - hell why not just copy Googles idea? I'm sure they will let them considering.
Re: multitouch in general - remember Apple were working and applying for patents in this area as early as 02/03. Patents are just granted really slowly, it's entirely possible other phones with this functions launched before the iPhone technically infringe on Apples patent. It's situations like this the court has to differentiate between infringing and wilfull infringing.
I suspect that's the new ipad making an impact more than the iphone as people will be waiting on the new iphone to upgrade or buy one.