Apple vs Samsung, court orders Samsung to show Apple 5 new phones

Dolph said:
in other news, ford planning on suing all car makers using a 4 wheeled design.


ludicrous decision.
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This.

Phones (like most inventions) have a case of convergence of optimal design (Based on functionality & ergonomics) - ff you get 100 of the best designers & put them into different rooms (With the intention of designing a smartphone, 90% of them will look very similar. They are that shape because it's the most optimised design & wastes the least materials. I'm sure they could make it different & inferior if they wanted, but why the hell should anybody do that?.

The iphone/ipad were never original ideas - it's a natural step past the old tablets (my wacom cinque which is significantly older than either of them) & isn't a case for a copyright at all imho, even the software you can find parts of it in different older applications on consoles/PC & other operating systems.

My old Nokia had a menu system similar(ish) to my galaxy S2 - but I'm not crying about it.

This kind of hyper-agressive patent squabbling is bad for the consumer, I can understand a business wanting to protect an original idea - but since when did apple have one of them?.
 
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Well Apple came up with the idea to sue the pants off anyone that released a better competing product... that's innovating isn't it? Or are they doing it wrong?
 
Kirby Ferguson states it quite well here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd-dqUuvLk4&feature=player_detailpage#t=321s

(I have skipped it to the section in the video I mean)


As he states, the mobile phone arena was due to develop like it has so far. Appl may have been first (and kudos to them) but a lot of Apple fans seem to think that, even right now, we would still be stuck in the era of phones like the Sony Ericsson W800i and other dumbphones.

Keep watching it till 7:50 for the full bit (bout 2 mins in total).
 
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elmarko1234 said:
The iphone/ipad were never original ideas - it's a natural step past the old tablets (my wacom cinque which is significantly older than either of them) & isn't a case for a copyright at all imho, even the software you can find parts of it in different older applications on consoles/PC & other operating systems.
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OH MY GOD IT HAS ROUND CORNERS LIKE THE IPAD!1!11!!!!!?!!
 
Richie said:
New Samsung tablet unveiled -

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LOLOLOLOLOLOL now that's original. BUt it has round corners like the ipda too.....
 
This thread is nothing more than something started by a mindless iSheep in order to feel good about himself and the disgusting company he supports.

In civilised European countries, like the UK, it's Samsung who have won in court regarding many of these patents.
 
Apple may have won, but there hard stance is really starting to hurt there credibility.

Everybody copys and builds on each others products, its been happening since the dark ages. Imitation is the greatest form of flattery an all that. What make Apple think they can have there pie and eat it?

Or are they just stalling for time because they know they have nothing left to bring to the table? Easier to wipe out the competition than to maintain the development rates.
 
Photek said:
This thread is nothing more than something started by a mindless iSheep in order to feel good about himself and the disgusting company he supports.

In civilised European countries, like the UK, it's Samsung who have won in court regarding many of these patents.
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Where to start.
Apple won in Germany.
hTc didn't really win in uk, they just showed a different patent by a different company existed first.
They said the slide to unlock feature would have infringed apples patent if It wasn't for previuse work, over turning the patent.
http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/1...o-Unlock-quot-Patent-by-3-Years-Analysis.html
And there's strong rumors that apple are trying to buy neodone for their patents.
If they do buy them out they can just go back to uk court and almost certainly win.


Uk patent lawyer also comment on the case saying that the London trial may have limited impact, as the legal systems around the world are slightly different and in America as this device was not realsed in the USA it may not be viable evidence of previouse work.

And the bounce back patent disputed just didn't apply to HTC phones. Although probably would to samsung. That patent didnt get overturned.

On the grand scheme of things apple has a tiny tiny amount of disputed patents. Where other company's are disputing 19000, eclipsing apples disputed patents many many times over.
http://www.fastcodesign.com/1669900/infographic-sweet-jesus-the-patent-war-has-gotten-crazy
 
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interesting tactic by apple.

sue one of the biggest companies involved in your supply chain.

tbh a billion dollars is chump change to both companies at this point. Samsung will make it up by upping the costs on parts no doubt but it does just come across as pettiness for the sake of it on BOTH sides.


how come two companies that are so intertwined with each other in end up in court fighting out a billion dollar lawsuit?
 
Delta12 said:
interesting tactic by apple.

sue one of the biggest companies involved in your supply chain.

tbh a billion dollars is chump change to both companies at this point. Samsung will make it up by upping the costs on parts no doubt but it does just come across as pettiness for the sake of it on BOTH sides.


how come two companies that are so intertwined with each other in end up in court fighting out a billion dollar lawsuit?
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Publicity and perhaps a slight movement of power pushed in Apples favour.
 
Delta12 said:
interesting tactic by apple.

sue one of the biggest companies involved in your supply chain.

tbh a billion dollars is chump change to both companies at this point. Samsung will make it up by upping the costs on parts no doubt but it does just come across as pettiness for the sake of it on BOTH sides.


how come two companies that are so intertwined with each other in end up in court fighting out a billion dollar lawsuit?
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They have supposedly lost $14m in stocks though.
 
Moothead2 said:
I'm not having a 'stressy' as you put it. If anything, you're the one having a 'stressy' about there being two similar threads ;).
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Again lol.......I don't care if there are a hundred threads, I was just making an observation that this is a repeat of another thread running simultaneously, even down to the same posts being made in each one.

You are the one who got all antsy by stating 'ohhh, if you don't like it then stay away...." getting your knickers all in a twist....:D
 
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