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Bufferbloat on asus on virigin i can get A but on aquiss can only get B upload latency is high

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Zia
Which test is that?
 
I get D, and latency of 17 and +15ms. Not great.
I actually think something's wrong with the WaveForm site. My VM line has always been A+ on there, with SQM+cake enabled. This week I can't get past an 'A' but usually get B-F depending on settings, and my downstream is borked no matter what I try. If I test with Cloudflare, speedtest.net CLI (up and down ICMP under load), DSLReports or whomever it comes out fantastic. Flent confirms my line is as tight as a drum, but that site just keeps on saying it's horrific. It actually often gives me the exact same result whether SQM is enabled or disabled(!), so something's definitely not right.

Try speedtest.net and see what your latency is at idle, and under load (down and up), or better yet run a Flent RRUL test to Dave Taht's server london.starlink.taht.net.
 
I couldn't figure out how to use that.
You can use it from CLI or the GUI. Download per the instructions in the link I provided earlier. Open the GUI then CTRL + R for a new test. Test name is RRUL. Output directory for the data file and any saved pics (eg /home/user/flent or C:\flent) but remember the directory should already exist. Set the destination host to Dave's server at london.starlink.taht.net. Test title whatever you like (eg sqm-900-100). Leave the rest as-is and click 'Run test'. After 70 seconds you'll have some pretty graphs and can scroll through them using the menu on the right. the 'all scaled (Download, upload, ping (scaled versions))' is the primary one. Run it when the network is quiet (i.e. no torrents, game downloads, etc) and if you need any more help just shout mate.

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OK after some heavy testing, it definitely seems like either something's screwy with WaveForm atm, or the routing is busted to it on VM. However, rejoice! Cloudflare offer a very similar (much faster, more informative) test! It loads the connection, measures latency and jitter and all the other goodies, and then rates your line. Their 'great' is equivalent to A+ on the other site, good is A-B and anything below that, you don't want anyway. :cry: The page is long, and gives all the various speed results (small file sizes through to large file sizes, hence the 'steps' in the speed graph), all the latency info for up and down, etc.

Here's mine with OpenWrt and SQM/Cake. The downstream is restricted to favour latency, I could get much more speed but I prefer the lower ping:

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...and switching to fq-codel instead for lulz:

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Give it a go, and report back if you like. This test tallies with the rrul test and I'd trust this over the 'your SQM has no effect' results offered by WaveForm atm. BTW, my install is today (Monday) and I should be asleep... and yet here I am nerding out over latency, on a connection that I'm about to throw into the bin anyway lol. I'm just practising for Aquiss, honest.
 
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That test seems to have issues maximising the upload/download which might explain the lower latency. Speedtest result below doesn't have the same issue.

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Good luck with your installation today.
 
Aquiss with openwrt running SQM
Had set download to 925000 and upload 90500 for lowest latency
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Zia
 
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Well, install day arrived! The install itself went without a hitch, though after the engineer left I couldn't sync OpenWrt due to PPPoE errors. It kept saying the auth failed, so I after half an hour I called Martin at Aquiss. I have to say, I've only spoken to him on ticket before, and he's one of the nicest chaps I've spoken to in a long time. Down to earth, helpful, polite, professional and a real sense of humour lol. That guy knows his onions! Long story short, the engineer hadn't signed off the job (yet) so the ONT wasn't activated fully. While we were troubleshooting (direct connection from MBP to the ONT, no router, failed also), it just sprang to life.

Oh. My. God. :eek:

Single digit latency, jitter measured in μS not ms, and the speed is absolutely instant and rock solid. I had some minor bloat on the line out of the box (as is expected when a big pipe bumps into a smaller one), but SQM soon fixed that. I'm still tweaking, but basically ping 8-10ms, loaded exactly the same (up and downstream), jitter a few μS. I'm in love!

I couldn't recommend Aquiss highly enough, and thanks to Martin for being such a nice bloke and actually knowing his **** and being no-nonsense.

Changeover from VM (LOL):

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Bear in mind there are five other people at home 'Internetting' atm:

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Win! :cool: @zia are you using any advanced parameters (eg setting LLA to Ethernet with overhead 44 and nat dual-dsthost ingress besteffort mpu 84 and nat dual-srchost ack-filter besteffort, or just straight entered the speeds in the GUI and away? I'm still tweaking. It was very usable out of the box, but hackers gotta hack lol.
 
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Well, install day arrived! The install itself went without a hitch, though after the engineer left I couldn't sync OpenWrt due to PPPoE errors. It kept saying the auth failed, so I after half an hour I called Martin at Aquiss. I have to say, I've only spoken to him on ticket before, and he's one of the nicest chaps I've spoken to in a long time. Down to earth, helpful, polite, professional and a real sense of humour lol. That guy knows his onions! Long story short, the engineer hadn't signed off the job (yet) so the ONT wasn't activated fully. While we were troubleshooting (direct connection from MBP to the ONT, no router, failed also), it just sprang to life.

Oh. My. God. :eek:

Single digit latency, jitter measured in μS not ms, and the speed is absolutely instant and rock solid. I had some minor bloat on the line out of the box (as is expected when a big pipe bumps into a smaller one), but SQM soon fixed that. I'm still tweaking, but basically ping 8-10ms, loaded exactly the same (up and downstream), jitter a few μS. I'm in love!

I couldn't recommend Aquiss highly enough, and thanks to Martin for being such a nice bloke and actually knowing his **** and being no-nonsense.

Changeover from VM (LOL):

Screenshot-2024-03-04-at-18-33-38.png


7503984d-7dcd-407c-a213-c43214b50312.png


Bear in mind there are five other people at home 'Internetting' atm:

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Screenshot-2024-03-04-at-18-48-36.png

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Win! :cool: @zia are you using any advanced parameters (eg setting LLA to Ethernet with overhead 44 and nat dual-dsthost ingress besteffort mpu 84 and nat dual-srchost ack-filter besteffort, or just straight entered the speeds in the GUI and away? I'm still tweaking. It was very usable out of the box, but hackers gotta hack lol.
Like night and day, 'njoy it :D
 
Win! :cool: @zia are you using any advanced parameters (eg setting LLA to Ethernet with overhead 44 and nat dual-dsthost ingress besteffort mpu 84 and nat dual-srchost ack-filter besteffort, or just straight entered the speeds in the GUI and away? I'm still tweaking. It was very usable out of the box, but hackers gotta hack lol.


Yep LLA on ethernet overhead at 44,mpu at 84,everything else on default.

Zia
 
Yep LLA on ethernet overhead at 44,mpu at 84,everything else on default.

Zia
Yup, spot on. I think I was over-egging it... Too used to having to beat VM into submission with the nuclear arsenal. Once I dialled it back and removed the extra 'dangerous' options it actually improved again(!). Bear in mind I have half a dozen people in the house (me, wife, four kids who are more addicted to the Internet than even I am) and also am running half a dozen servers and a Tor Snow flake Proxy (constant up/down bandwidth), I think this is more than acceptable!

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I think I'll include a 'LinusTorvaldsToNvidia.jpg' pic with the Virgin 'SuperHub' when it goes back... ;)
Edit: Because I didn't mean 'that' kind of snow flake and it was censored for no reason.
 
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@Rainmaker glad to see it all worked out, enjoy!
now i just have to nod and pretend i know what you guys are talking about outside of the numbers.

might have to pick your brains with regards to my own setup
 
@Rainmaker glad to see it all worked out, enjoy!
now i just have to nod and pretend i know what you guys are talking about outside of the numbers.

might have to pick your brains with regards to my own setup
Yeah no probs mate.

After some fiddling and whatnot, I'm more than happy with the line. Everything's tight in the 10ms to 11ms range even under load, and I've lost hardly any headline speed. Most speed tests clock in around 850 to 860 Mbps and I'm more than happy with that considering. Without SQM it's a solid ~942Mbps but latency bounces up a little bit (still only to what VM consider unloaded latency lol).

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It's absolutely night and day over Virmin; web pages load instantly with a snap, my servers are much more responsive (instant) and it's just so much nicer to use. Rock solid speeds and latency, day and night. Aquiss are the nicest/best ISP I've ever been with customer service wise, too. Well worth the wait!
 
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