As long as the oil keeps coming I literally do not care about whatever government they have. It is of no concern of ours. We are not the world police. They, and all the other former colonial countries have the independence they wanted. If democracy is the superior form of government they'll figure that out for themselves.
Are NATO and the UN just full of useless ****s?
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There is a simple answer to this ,as i think we all agree that gadaffe has stepped over the line.
Supply the rebbels with some AA assets and some old static artillary pieces. As they out number the goverment this will probabbly tilt the ballance and no nato troops need go within 1000 miles of libya.. Job done.
I know there is an arms embargo , but as france dont recognise the gadafee goverment but do the newlly formed rebell goverment i'm sure this is a loop hole ..
Supply the rebbels with some AA assets and some old static artillary pieces. As they out number the goverment this will probabbly tilt the ballance and no nato troops need go within 1000 miles of libya.. Job done.
I know there is an arms embargo , but as france dont recognise the gadafee goverment but do the newlly formed rebell goverment i'm sure this is a loop hole ..
Soldato
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libya isnt even the country commiting the worst acts upon its "civilians" er i mean rebels ...
and lets not forget sudan either
i like how obama wants gaddafi to pull back from the rebels and give them even more land lol, i bet if they do once the rebels start attacking gaddafis forces everyone will remain quiet but only if the rebels are winning ...
how come the news channels dont seem to report this?
and lets not forget sudan either
how come this goes ignored?.
i like how obama wants gaddafi to pull back from the rebels and give them even more land lol, i bet if they do once the rebels start attacking gaddafis forces everyone will remain quiet but only if the rebels are winning ...
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meanwhile in Bahrain the slaughter goes on largely unreported and uncriticized from the western world.
Some things never change
Some things never change
Commissario
It's been on the BBC news channel virtually all day - every 15 minutes or so it seems (at least about Ywmen).
Soldato
This thread is a bit LOL for some peoples comments
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When rebels fight government forces anywhere they are engaging in a domestic struggle, ie same as IRA vs UK, ETA vs Spain, current situation in a few countries where people have taken up arms basically makes them paramilitary.
No country/UN/anyone wants to get engaged in these, they are upto the relevant countries to sort themselves. Its an internal security issue.
Where the international community (and rightly so) basically has its issues is when the governments of said countries are using military to supress civillians, the belief of the western world and hell of a lot of others is that civillians have the right to not be kept in poverty when a few take all the wealth, where they have no opportunity long term as there is no elections etc. The two main world stage players who have a slightly different view are Russia and China. Russia push the boundaries themselves at times, but again basically re paramilitary not civilians, they however like the chinese view anything internal to another country as something they do not want to get involved in. The chinese would be rather taking the **** if they did make any massive supporting actions on goverment supression / human rights on the world stage
They at least recognise we have differing views and basically politely take a backwards step away and let the rest get on with it.
I can see some serious conversations happening re Bahrain imminently if it carries on much longer.
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When rebels fight government forces anywhere they are engaging in a domestic struggle, ie same as IRA vs UK, ETA vs Spain, current situation in a few countries where people have taken up arms basically makes them paramilitary.
No country/UN/anyone wants to get engaged in these, they are upto the relevant countries to sort themselves. Its an internal security issue.
Where the international community (and rightly so) basically has its issues is when the governments of said countries are using military to supress civillians, the belief of the western world and hell of a lot of others is that civillians have the right to not be kept in poverty when a few take all the wealth, where they have no opportunity long term as there is no elections etc. The two main world stage players who have a slightly different view are Russia and China. Russia push the boundaries themselves at times, but again basically re paramilitary not civilians, they however like the chinese view anything internal to another country as something they do not want to get involved in. The chinese would be rather taking the **** if they did make any massive supporting actions on goverment supression / human rights on the world stage
They at least recognise we have differing views and basically politely take a backwards step away and let the rest get on with it.
I can see some serious conversations happening re Bahrain imminently if it carries on much longer.