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Are Nvidia Going to Support Freesync?

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Does anybody know if Nvidia are going to support Freesync?

I want to buy the Iiyama 4K monitor which is on sale which can be upgraded to Freesync but i'm definitely buying a new PC with a Nvidia graphics card for PhysX so not sure what to do and the Acer Gsync 4k monitor is a lot more expensive with not many inputs like the Iiyama has.
 
I seriously doubt it.

It's nvidia. They won't do something to benefit their customers if it means they will stop making money on it.

It's about as likely as them supporting mantle.

Got to remember, this is the company that is so petty they disallow use of physex when another vendor card detected.

Pity they usually make good hardware.
 
I seriously doubt it.

It's nvidia. They won't do something to benefit their customers if it means they will stop making money on it.

It's about as likely as them supporting mantle.

Got to remember, this is the company that is so petty they disallow use of physex when another vendor card detected.

Pity they usually make good hardware.

Its a good job nvidia did not make an api to tie in customers and that only works on certain cards, that would be evil.
 
Its a good job nvidia did not make an api to tie in customers and that only works on certain cards, that would be evil.

As final8y said, matle doesn't tie people down.

but lets not turn this into ANOTHER mantle thread.

But lets be honest where Nvidia is concerned, they do some great stuff, but I do honestly feel they sometimes treat their own customers with contempt.

There is that physx example, and then the likes of passive 3D gaming, which they could have easily supported on any passive 3D screen, but no, they locked it into brands which had paid a licence fee.

It is just how they are, so dont pretend like I am attacking them in some way when I state that they are unlikely to support freesync. I hope they do, because I don't want my monitor features tied to my gpu vendor, but it's likely how it will go.
 
Nvidia WILL use adaptive sync, if they will "support" adaptive sync in general is questionable and arguably the answer will be no.

You really need to know what each part is called and understand what is going on, Nvidia will NOT support freesync, ever.

Most new screens released from now will support adaptive sync and at some point in the not very distant future(12-18 months maybe) every single new screen will have the feature. AMD side you need a driver to actually take advantage of adaptive sync, monitors don't do it automatically. AMD call their driver feature which makes use of adaptive sync freesync, Nvidia can't support freesync, it would be like AMD choosing to support 3dvision, they can't, it's an Nvidia branded piece of software.

So the question people should be asking is will Nvidia support adaptive sync with their own piece of software with whatever name they want to call it, and the answer is, absolutely, and it will simply continue to be called g-sync.

What you have now is g-sync having an expensive chip and an expensive licensing deal making g-sync monitors very expensive. At the very least the extra chip will be gotten rid of and they'll simply add more to the software to enable them to do the same thing over adaptive sync meaning they will in the longer term use exactly the same method AMD do to control the refresh rate on the screen. Where the unknown is, is will Nvidia still charge monitors a licensing fee. IE you might have 20 screens that have the adaptive sync hardware/support, but only two monitors pay Nvidia for g-sync licensing so even though g-sync can work on all 20 monitors, they may disable it for all but 2 of the screens. The same way they do 3dvision and other things they demand a licensing fee for or lock out a feature.

My guess is Nvidia will go the licensing route but as freesync becomes widespread their licensing fee will have to drop drastically and a g-sync screen won't cost much more than a freesync screen. But the reason it's questionable if Nvidia will "support" adaptive sync is that I would consider support for adaptive sync meaning if you buy any adaptive sync screen then g-sync would work with it full stop. If there are licensing fee's and g-sync doesn't work on every adaptive sync screen I don't think you can consider they support it even if they use it on some screens.

I can see a point in the future as well where using adaptive sync becomes a standard thing for everyone to do and that at some point Nvidia will stop charging a licensing fee. Where 3d vision has fancy glasses and is something not many people use when something becomes a bit more fundamental and standard it's harder to justify charging to provide it. Much like Nvidia wouldn't think about and don't charge users to use 120-144hz options, at some point if a feature is standard you can't charge above and beyond for it.
 
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Drunkenmaster, it's nothing like AMD supporting 3DVision.

Freesync is an open standard which is there for anyone to implement, Nvidias 3DVision and Gsync are proprietary, so AMD and the likes don't get a choice in the matter.
 
Drunkenmaster, it's nothing like AMD supporting 3DVision.

Freesync is an open standard which is there for anyone to implement, Nvidias 3DVision and Gsync are proprietary, so AMD and the likes don't get a choice in the matter.


Yep nvidia invented 3d. Or do you mean they are proprietary ways of doing things that are standard?
 
Freesync is NOT what screens support, freesync is AMD side driver for freesync.

The part on the screens, the standard, is called adaptive sync.

In the 1.2a display port standard it's called adaptive sync, there is nothing about freesync in the standard.

http://techreport.com/news/26451/adaptive-sync-added-to-displayport-spec

Q: How are DisplayPort™ Adaptive-Sync and Project FreeSync different?
A: DisplayPort™ Adaptive-Sync is an ingredient DisplayPort™ feature that enables real-time adjustment of monitor refresh rates required by technologies like Project FreeSync. Project FreeSync is a unique AMD hardware/software solution that utilizes DisplayPort™ Adaptive-Sync protocols to enable user-facing benefits: smooth, tearing-free and low-latency gameplay and video.


Freesync is the AMD gpu/driver side of the equation, it is NOT a standard, adaptive sync is the monitor/dp 1.2a side of the equation, it IS a standard. Nvidia will never support freesync. Many screens many be branded freesync(in the same way g-sync is) but without any licensing fee required to brand it as such and in the future we may see screens that get a freesync and a g-sync logo on a box without much or even any mention of adaptive sync. That is just how marketing goes.

AMD talk about freesync in general and most news stories do for the same reason, AMD are really talking about screens that come out that will work with freesync, really they are saying there are adaptive sync screens coming out and they'll all work with AMD's freesync, but it's both longer and less good marketing.
 
Drunkenmaster, it's nothing like AMD supporting 3DVision.

Freesync is an open standard which is there for anyone to implement, Nvidias 3DVision and Gsync are proprietary, so AMD and the likes don't get a choice in the matter.

Freesync is AMD's implementation of adaptive sync, adaptive sync in monitors is open standard, freesync the gpu side isn't

Nvidia cant support freesync, they can if they chose to support vesa adaptive sync, but it doesnt make financial sense for them to until or if it has market adoption
 
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Adaptive sync/free sync whatever...

You know what the op is asking.

Will nvidia likely support the vesa standard for ADAPTIVE sync to the detriment of their G-sync?

Unlikely.
 
Yep nvidia invented 3d. Or do you mean they are proprietary ways of doing things that are standard?

And 3D is not an Nvidia only thing, no - 3DVision is. I.e. AMD would never get licence to use 3DVision on the monitors it's branded for.

Why does it seem like everyone is being totally pedantic today?
 
Adaptive sync/free sync whatever...

You know what the op is asking.

Will nvidia likely support the vesa standard for ADAPTIVE sync to the detriment of their G-sync?

Unlikely.

Yes I know what the op is asking which is precisely why I answered it. The fact is if you want to be pedantic or not, if the OP is wondering if Nvidia will come out and state they will support freesync the answer is never, if you rephrase the question to will they support adaptive sync(to some level) the answer changes from no to yes.

When getting the words right changes the answer to the question, yes, it's right to be pedantic, or otherwise known as correct.

We've seen multiple threads and even more posts in other threads asking if Nvidia will support freesync AND responses from Nvidia exec types who have stated they won't support freesync.

The distinction is very important. Teaching people they have the wording wrong is important because the idea Nvidia/the industry is putting out is that Nvidia won't support freesync and a lot of people are incorrectly taking that to mean Nvidia won't support adaptive sync, the distinction here is incredibly important otherwise people will continue to mix them up and get the wrong idea of what is going on.
 
And 3D is not an Nvidia only thing, no - 3DVision is. I.e. AMD would never get licence to use 3DVision on the monitors it's branded for.

Why does it seem like everyone is being totally pedantic today?

funny people should mention 3D... can anyone find a monitor that supports AMD 3D / Tridef?
That was also open and "free" for a good long while

freesync stands a better chance if it actually costs monitor makers nothing to implement, but at the same time there will be very little pushing nvidia to support it if the actual uptake is low - with AMD's market share it isn't going to be a massive seller until nvidia do support it
 
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