maybe, but the line is the point of discussion, where the line is drawn is the entire integrity of forum discussion. Free or controlled speech appears to be the issue of this thread.Weebull said:You don't help by pushing your luck though. There's disagreeing with things and there's trolling, and you do seem to enjoy riding the line.
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Weebull said:It's not official policiy no, but that is the attitude you get from some people on here on occasion. I was going to bring up that same comment Nana brought up with myself to say the same, but I decided it wasn't worth it in the end. I've read people say things like "If you don't like it, you know where the door is", etc before, and sure, it's true, but it's almost always said in response to someone being overly-critical of things on here. As soon as this thread got a bit negative, I was expecting to see comments like those appear, and they did. No, it's not meant in a threatening manner, but it still comes across as a tad harsh. People can have criticisms but still like the place enough to stay, I know I do.
Just to follow up what I posted many many pages earlier, what Weebull mentions is what I meant in terms of some posters having an air of superiority about them. Same goes for those people who instantly jump on those who ask a google-able question, but the OP has genuinely searched high and low to no avail for the answer. That is the reason they pose the question here, because there is invariably someone who either knows the answer or is better at searching for it.
Same also goes for the sometimes verging on scathing sarcasm, which I don't think is necessary. And yes, I do have a sense of humour. People also seem to need to make disclaimers now before posting some things, because of how quick others can be to lambast them for posting something that's been posted before. There's friendly ways of telling someone that they've made a re-post, and there's 'yawn, you stupid ******* can't you use the search button
' Of course, I exagerrate a little, but that is the sentiment.
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Nana said:
I need some sleep.
I'm reading in Yoda.
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Look, I'm clever and I can write proper. But sometimes...crap seems like a better word!Nana said:
Look, the mod team on here are very fair. This place is nice. There is no "agree with us or die in the face" rule.
End of.
That might be so, but consistently trying to make some kind of martyr of yourself by saying you expect to get banned after every post, and then going and having a go at other posters for telling you to calm down, taking the mick out of grammatical mistakes, and single rolleyes smiley posts are all unnecesary and pretty damn trollish. Yes the mods have been harsh to you in this thread, but it's not without good reason.Nana said:
come on I said that I expected a suspension for simple dissent after my first post, and subsequently have not mentioned the fragility of my own account. And if you had been suspended for saying your daughters birthday was a day to celebrate you'd maybe think that suspension was pretty easy to get.Weebull said:
I'm not trolling imo, in fact the line between dissent and trolling is another quite hard one to pick.
The OP asked, are OcUK the best on the WWW, now the old WWW is pretty huge, and imo, OcUK is not the best, that is not a declaration that I feel my account to be worthless, but that on occasion I feel the "rules" have been applied inconsistently, innapropriately and unfairly. And that is my opinion, not a fact. And if opinions are not allowed, that kind of backs up my remarks.
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I'd say the line between dissent and trolling would quite obviously be how mature you're being about it.
Yes, and you made the point several posts ago. It's pretty much everything from then on that's felt unneccesary to me, and that's what I was saying.Nana said:
Nana what is your point here? You want to get banned? Well just go ahead and get on with it rather than pansying around. You want to make a point? You havent. Give up. The rules are there, easy to understand. Stick to them and all will be well, cross the line and the mods will act accordingly. There is no 'agree with me or be banned' attitude. It is a 'stick to the rules or be banned' attitude. Its the rules of the house, why are you so het up about it?
of course I don't want to get banned, if I wanted that would I post at all??Pebbles said:
I answered the OP's original question honestly, and have been defending my remarks ever since. Along with all the "whining kernuts you know where the door is" remarks which I have ignored.
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Cant be bothered to read the whole thread, BUT, I would like to say the forums are ace! Over the past year I have learnt so much from these forums it has been unreal. No doubt I have improved my general knowledge of my computer and not only can I now build a decent computer but I can also overclock it
Something I didnt even know the meaning of until joining up! I think the forums are a true reflection of the level of service that OCUK offer through their online shop. Their customer service is excellent. This week, for example, I purchased a Dual Cathode kit from the shop. When I recevied them unfortunately one cathode had smashed (no doubt in the post). I mailed services, explained to them the problem and without question they sent me their apologies and a new kit, no questions asked! Of course it wasn't something highly expensive but it was just the principal and ease of the matter. It made me think how I could have purchased from eGay or a less reputable online retailer and had a whole lot of hassle ... thanks OCUK
and how mature am I?Weebull said:I'd say the line between dissent and trolling would quite obviously be how mature you're being about it.
Yes, and you made the point several posts ago. It's pretty much everything from then on that's felt unneccesary to me, and that's what I was saying.
how much do YOU know about me?
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Exactly my point.
No I don't know you, and I'm not claiming to. In real-life you could be absolutely anyone, nice as pie or the meanest git ever, but in this thread you're being needlessly agressive in your posting, and that's all I'm ever referring to.
No I don't know you, and I'm not claiming to. In real-life you could be absolutely anyone, nice as pie or the meanest git ever, but in this thread you're being needlessly agressive in your posting, and that's all I'm ever referring to.
There has only been 1 remark like the door that was not called for 100% Nana.
The forums are free, good fun and a great place for free debate within the rules, have a problem with the rules or a question on them email a Don (Baddass has a email inbox full from me
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The moderation on this forum from what I get wind of is superb, all very friendly and helpful PEOPLE, they are not machines so will sometimes make subjective decisions.
I beleive aswell that there needs to be approval by more than one don to get someone suspended or banned, as a check on there power.
The forums work, small moderation team for the number of posters really, they do a good job and I have had only 1 problem with a moderation decission since 2002, they deffinately do not have favourites aswell, look at GTA
The forums are free, good fun and a great place for free debate within the rules, have a problem with the rules or a question on them email a Don (Baddass has a email inbox full from me
). The moderation on this forum from what I get wind of is superb, all very friendly and helpful PEOPLE, they are not machines so will sometimes make subjective decisions.
I beleive aswell that there needs to be approval by more than one don to get someone suspended or banned, as a check on there power.
The forums work, small moderation team for the number of posters really, they do a good job and I have had only 1 problem with a moderation decission since 2002, they deffinately do not have favourites aswell, look at GTA