Are scars cool?

JohnnyG · 19 Jun 2007 at 21:10

penski said:
as I said, I can't seem to qualify 'cool'...if it is merely something that I like then many things are cool...the only feasible description of 'cool' (in my eyes) is related to the opinion of you held by others.

I simply know what I like, am proud of what I like and like sharing what I like.

if you like it too then that's fine. if you don't like it and you give reasons ('i think a, b, c...I would change it by doing x, yz' et cetera) then that's fine too.

if you just go 'omgzorz that is ****! you must be mentally ill!!!!1' (which unfortunately happens quite often) then I tend to fly off the handle a bit.

*n

If you don't really care about anyone else's opinion of you then why bother flying off the handle if they don't like you or your stuff?

penski · 19 Jun 2007 at 21:38

JohnnyG said:
If you don't really care about anyone else's opinion of you then why bother flying off the handle if they don't like you or your stuff?

as I just said, if they don't like it and give a reasoned argument why they don't like it...or a constructive critique then that is absolutely fine with me.

but (to reiterate...from the post I made five minutes ago...) "if you just go 'omgzorz that is ****! you must be mentally ill!!!!1' (which unfortunately happens quite often) then I tend to fly off the handle a bit."

there are a few character traits which I truly ****ing despise...

spinelessness; the inability to say exactly what you mean and to skirt around (as so finely displayed by a certain eye-rolling individual in this very thread...). this extends to people who, after having a slightly heated conversation with you, mutter something under their breath. for some reason, this completely makes my bood boil and usually results in me screaming at the person who just did it. why do people do it? are they afraid? do they simply lack the balls to say something to your face?

another is when someone spouts off opinions without qualifying them. I respect anyone who qualifies their view with a reasoned argument or even, at a very base level, provides constructive criticism...but when they simply say 'no.' with no rhyme or reason, I get irked. perhaps I just get frustrated by idiocy?

so while I don't care for your opinion, I can still respect it if you provide it in an intelligent manner.

*n

alexakasloth · 19 Jun 2007 at 21:40

Dingleberry88 said:
Scars (in my opinion) are not cool.

You just seem to always have to make threads about something like this. Attention seeking TBH.

You like piercings/mutilation/whatever. We get it.

If you don't have anything nice to say...

Got a scar on my knee from skateboarding, and one on my palm where it went into a railing.

bledd · 19 Jun 2007 at 21:43

collisster said:
one on my forehead from when I defeated lord voldermort

class

bledd · 19 Jun 2007 at 21:45

james.miller said:
that picture is the only thing thats made me shudder in a very long time. icky lol

same here, can't get it out of my head :/

Dingleberry88 · 19 Jun 2007 at 21:49

penski said:
(as so finely displayed by a certain eye-rolling individual in this very thread...)

Morba · 19 Jun 2007 at 21:51

proper scars can be cool. scars by muppets who scar themselves on purpose, are not cool

Morba · 19 Jun 2007 at 21:54

penski said:
me and millions of others?

would you be turned off a girl you were really into if you found out she had scars?

*n

scars like the ones that you have posted, yes i would be turned off.

penski · 19 Jun 2007 at 22:03

Morba said:
proper scars can be cool. scars by muppets who scar themselves on purpose, are not cool

what of those completely sane and lucid individuals who pay a professional to scar them for aesthetic reasons?

*n

penski · 19 Jun 2007 at 22:05

Morba said:
scars like the ones that you have posted, yes i would be turned off.

would you also be turned off if these individuals had tattoos or a certain haircut?

*n

Fett · 19 Jun 2007 at 22:05

penski said:
as I just said, if they don't like it and give a reasoned argument why they don't like it...or a constructive critique then that is absolutely fine with me.

but (to reiterate...from the post I made five minutes ago...) "if you just go 'omgzorz that is ****! you must be mentally ill!!!!1' (which unfortunately happens quite often) then I tend to fly off the handle a bit."

there are a few character traits which I truly ****ing despise...

spinelessness; the inability to say exactly what you mean and to skirt around (as so finely displayed by a certain eye-rolling individual in this very thread...). this extends to people who, after having a slightly heated conversation with you, mutter something under their breath. for some reason, this completely makes my bood boil and usually results in me screaming at the person who just did it. why do people do it? are they afraid? do they simply lack the balls to say something to your face?

another is when someone spouts off opinions without qualifying them. I respect anyone who qualifies their view with a reasoned argument or even, at a very base level, provides constructive criticism...but when they simply say 'no.' with no rhyme or reason, I get irked. perhaps I just get frustrated by idiocy?

so while I don't care for your opinion, I can still respect it if you provide it in an intelligent manner.

*n

I like my ink and I have no problem with my scars, one is very visible which was an issue at first but apparently "chicks do dig scars" I do have a small issue with one point in your post and that was qualification of an opinion. Perhaps better suited to *Motors* but...

penski said:
If you want a Subaru engine without looking like an onanist, buy a Bug, split, bay or wedge and fit it in there

That was not a snip, just a single post. No qualification why we abuse ourselves into blindness.

Perhaps I should have questioned your reasoning at the time, but we ******* are far too busy, obviously.

I enjoy your posts and like some of what you like, but please, c'mon. Not everybody expresses themselves the same way or in a consistent manner on a forum.

penski · 19 Jun 2007 at 22:50

christ, that was a while back!

for me, an impreza conveys a certain image that I would not like to be associated with. think XR3i circa 1992 and you catch my drift...they have replaced the cosworth as the council estate touring car of choice.

yes, I should have qualified it better; I like foresters and legacys but for some reason imprezas leave me cold.

*n

Morba · 19 Jun 2007 at 23:19

penski said:
what of those completely sane and lucid individuals who pay a professional to scar them for aesthetic reasons?

*n

just as bad, though no doubt it will look better! (imagine doing the ones you posted, on yourself, now that would not look anything like what the pro ones do :] )

Morba · 19 Jun 2007 at 23:21

penski said:
would you also be turned off if these individuals had tattoos or a certain haircut?

*n

depends on the tattoo tbh, some women look fantastic with them, others look terrible.

a hair cut isnt so drastic, though again, it would depend on the cut and the rest of the womans style.

Arcade Fire · 20 Jun 2007 at 00:12

penski said:
would you also be turned off if these individuals had tattoos or a certain haircut?

*n

The implication seems to be that personal preference is not a valid reason for disliking something - is that the case?

P.S. I'm feeling contentious; ignore if necessary.

penski · 20 Jun 2007 at 00:41

Arcade Fire said:
The implication seems to be that personal preference is not a valid reason for disliking something - is that the case?

it is a valid reason but I always seek to find the reasoning behind the preference.

in this instance, I am trying to ascertain if the dislike is a general one due to a woman changing her appearance to something which falls outside Morba's 'scene' or whether the dislike is a specific one due to the nature of the change itself.

*n

Phalanx · 20 Jun 2007 at 00:42

ffs I hate the picture of those 2 fingers even though I know it's teeth from an alien.

I've got a scar on my forehead, on my back, on my wrist and on the palm of my hand, each has an interesting story to tell.

Head Scar
When I was 3 I was running indoors and tripped over and cracked my head open on one of those really rough walls (the brittle spikey ones)

Back Scar
Tried scratching my back against a tree and I cut a deep wound on something sharp

Wrist
Some guy at school attacked me with a pencil and stabbed me in the wrist

Palm of my Hand
This one was really painful, I was in the dead sea and I tried to get out and because the water is so salty, the bed is layered with sharp salt spikes. I cut my hand open on one and loads of salt seeped into my wound and it was excrutiatingly painful

Arcade Fire · 20 Jun 2007 at 00:44

penski said:
it is a valid reason but I always seek to find the reasoning behind the preference.

in this instance, I am trying to ascertain if the dislike is a general one due to a woman changing her appearance to something which falls outside Morba's 'scene' or whether the dislike is a specific one due to the nature of the change itself.

*n

Does it matter? Likes and dislikes can be completely arbitrary - there's no sense in looking for reasons in them!

There seems to be a trend among people who consider themselves 'counter culture' to view people who don't share their outlook as narrow minded or unwilling to open themselves up to new experiences. Not accusing you of this (I imagine you'd be the last person to describe yourself as counter culture anyway) but it's an interesting phenomenon, and pretty ironic if you ask me!

penski · 20 Jun 2007 at 00:59

Arcade Fire said:
Does it matter? Likes and dislikes can be completely arbitrary - there's no sense in looking for reasons in them!

I try to find reasoning in everything. I am very self aware and always seek to find the base impulses or reasons behind all of my actions. its just my way of understanding the world

There seems to be a trend among people who consider themselves 'counter culture' to view people who don't share their outlook as narrow minded or unwilling to open themselves up to new experiences. Not accusing you of this (I imagine you'd be the last person to describe yourself as counter culture anyway) but it's an interesting phenomenon, and pretty ironic if you ask me!

I would go as far as to say that those who consider themselves 'counter culture' never are and that the few which are have been labelled as nutters by society as a whole.

or eccentric if they're affluent.

me? I know I'm a bit different but I suspect that stems from my thought processes, the way I interact with my environment on a mental/analytical level and certain character traits which we don't really need to go into here but which have resulted in negative dignoses of aspergers and a few others...

*n

Arcade Fire · 20 Jun 2007 at 01:11

penski said:
I try to find reasoning in everything. I am very self aware and always seek to find the base impulses or reasons behind all of my actions. its just my way of understanding the world

I find it more reasonable to believe that most things are beyond are power to reason out - with the obvious exceptions of physics, mathematics and a couple of other related branches of science, the world is too complicated a place for us to hope that we can understand it fully. Better to face up to that ignorance, I think, then sustain the false hope that you can find reason in something as arbitrary as human likes and dislikes!

...certain character traits which we don't really need to go into here but which have resulted in negative dignoses of aspergers and a few others...

I would imagine that most people get a negative diagnosis for Asperger's