Are we the New Man utd?

You did buy it though really. If Abramovich had come along with not very much money and limited spending, where would you be now? Its all well and good Chelsea fans saying that it wasn't the money winning the title, it was Mourinho and the players working well together, but you wouldn't have most of the players or Mourinho if Abramovich hadn't thrown his cash about...
 
People find a reason to hate whoever's the top dog at the time, it doesn't matter who it is. For Chelsea it's that they have limitless funds and don't play particularly attractive football, when it was Arsenal we were thugs and divers, when it was ManU, it was, well, because they were ManU. People never really had time to turn on Newcastle or Blackburn because they were never dominant for long enough, but had they been, I'm sure someone would have found plenty of flaws in them. It's the way it goes, just ignore it. :)

In a general sense, I couldn't really care less who wins the title, or how, and who comes where. It's either Arsenal, or it's not. Obviously I tend to have some preferences over which teams do better, but never to the extent that it really bothers me if they don't. Other than Spurs of course, who I actively enjoy seeing lose, but that's just natural. ;)
 
andi said:
You did buy it though really. If Abramovich had come along with not very much money and limited spending, where would you be now? Its all well and good Chelsea fans saying that it wasn't the money winning the title, it was Mourinho and the players working well together, but you wouldn't have most of the players or Mourinho if Abramovich hadn't thrown his cash about...
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what about portsmouth ? 50 million should help them? not seen it happen yet?
if it was all about the cash they should be getting back up the table. still havent seen it.
 
Have Portsmouth spend £50m?? I dont think so somehow. I can empathise with Chelsea supporters to some degree though. The situation is no different than it was with man united in the mid 90s. The rest of the clubs by and large couldnt compete financially. Same sort of thing but the figures are of course hugely inflated.
 
2 clubs spent more than united in the 90's iirc. in the premier division that is. there's no point going down the money hasn't bought us success route with Chelsea as it's pretty obvious.
 
It's funny how we've got a reputation for spending loads of money in the nineties when we really didn't. There were a few clubs with a bigger spending budget. Ferguson would have spent loads if it wasn't for the plc board.
 
Are we the New Man utd?
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No, you're not that good yet.

As has been mentioned, people are jealous of success. Whilst Chelsea haven't had an extended period of this, they have a strong side that wins a lot. Rival fans don't like this.

The 'bottomless pit' of money and arrogant manager is another contributing factor.

Gilly said:
Nope.

manyoo have been hated successful or not.
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You could say that of any team.
 
Hinchy55 said:
And those players that we bought around them weren't all HUGE signings. Solksjaer and Johnsen were on the cheap, Schmeichel was cheap, Comparing the strikers it was Yorke and Cole for Utd. Them two combined was £20million i think.
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Don't forget that while he was 'cheap' by todays terms, Andy Cole was a British Transfer Record at the time. Plenty more on top of that though:

-Keane (British Transfer Record, lynchpin of the side for many years)
-Stam ~£12m
-Veron ~£28m
-Ferdinand ~£28m
-Rooney £20-27m
-Barthez ~£10m
-Van Nistelrooy £19m
-Saha ~£12.8m
-Ronaldo ~£12.25m
-Berg and May to cripple the defence of their mid-90s rival, Blackburn

While I'd agree that MUs transfers haven't been as significant as Chelsea's, the idea that MU haven't made many big signings over the years simply isn't true.
 
HangTime said:
Don't forget that while he was 'cheap' by todays terms, Andy Cole was a British Transfer Record at the time. Plenty more on top of that though:

-Keane (British Transfer Record, lynchpin of the side for many years)
-Stam ~£12m
-Veron ~£28m
-Ferdinand ~£28m
-Rooney £20-27m
-Barthez ~£10m
-Van Nistelrooy £19m
-Saha ~£12.8m
-Ronaldo ~£12.25m
-Berg and May to cripple the defence of their mid-90s rival, Blackburn

While I'd agree that MUs transfers haven't been as significant as Chelsea's, the idea that MU haven't made many big signings over the years simply isn't true.
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Keane, Stam, Berg and May (earth shattering that duo of signings).

As far as i'm aware the others weren't made in the 90's?
 
A lot of people won't like Chelsea because of Roman's input and the sheer arrogance of Mourinho, but the main reason is that if any club starts winning the title regularly, as it looks like Chelsea will do, people's envy will mean that they automatically start hating you, often making up various reasons to do so, based on nothing more than hearsay.
 
Gilly said:
That everyone hates them?

Really?
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No, that's not what you said, or I said for that matter.

You said they were hated and I quoted that. Chelsea were hated pre-Abramovic (London rivals, cockney haters etc). Any team has it's haters.

Are you saying that everyone hates Man Utd?
 
JohnnyG said:
Name one instance of a player doing that:)
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The instance where John Terry falsely assumed that the negative vibes towards Chelsea was becuase people were 'jealous' of them and went to the media to talk about his opinion. Chelsea can only dream about having the decorum, class and history of most British clubs. For him to say that people were jealous of Chelsea's sucess was arrogant and assumptive. I would be ashamed if my club were in Chelsea's position and although I would be pleased that we were winning things, I would not ram it down the throats of everyone.

Or any game Arjen Robben plays in :D

To be fair, the players are not that bad. They are overshadowed by the sideshow that is Mouriniho.
 
Youstolemyname said:
The instance where John Terry falsely assumed that the negative vibes towards Chelsea was becuase people were 'jealous' of them and went to the media to talk about his opinion. Chelsea can only dream about having the decorum, class and history of most British clubs. For him to say that people were jealous of Chelsea's sucess was arrogant and assumptive. I would be ashamed if my club were in Chelsea's position and although I would be pleased that we were winning things, I would not ram it down the throats of everyone.

Or any game Arjen Robben plays in :D

To be fair, the players are not that bad. They are overshadowed by the sideshow that is Mouriniho.
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That's not really swaggerring around oozing arrogance and demanding respect is it? That's just a club captain defending his club.
 
HangTime said:
-Keane (British Transfer Record, lynchpin of the side for many years)
-Stam ~£12m
-Berg and May to cripple the defence of their mid-90s rival, Blackburn
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Fixed, there's the transfers in the nineties out of your list ;) During the height of our success.


Edit: Berg and May, cripples....definitely. Crap...yes. Important players....never.
 
Gilly said:
Pretty much. Bar their own fans, obviously.

Can't say that for any other team...
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Rubbish really. Proper rivals like Liverpool hate us, small teams who think they're our rivals hate us. Arsenal and Chelsea have a passing dislike for us in real terms, if we weren't challenging for the same thing in 10 years time there'd be no true rivalry or dislike between fans. Other teams probably quite enjoy watching us lose simply because they remember us winning so much much as in the early 90's lots of people enjoyed watching 'pool struggle they regained a degree of affection later on though. If you can't count glory hunters or Johnny come latelies as people who truly love a club then it's going a bit far to say you can count teams with a passing grudge as those who hate your club.
 
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