Look at the first post I made in the thread.
I'm not afraid of being dead. I'm just afraid of the potential pain involved in the process of dying. But once I am dead, I won't feel that pain any more. So I won't really care will I?
Are you afraid of death?
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I'm not afraid of being dead. I'm just afraid of the potential pain involved in the process of dying. But once I am dead, I won't feel that pain any more. So I won't really care will I?
But why do it to them in the first place?
Seems a completely pointless and cruel experiment, if there is no reason behind it.
Children who die at birth never have the chance to fail if they are automatically accepted as pure and innocent.
And what about those who never encounter your religion?
How can they have faith in something they've never heard of?
That sounds pretty sick yeah, I mean you get to heaven (or hell) and are told that your whole life was spent in pain because god wanted to make a point about how unlucky you where.
what if their disability forced them to commit a mortal sin to get away from the pain, are they doomed because god decided to trip them at the start?
Hopefully nothing, to be trapped forever with a being who tortures people to make a point, well On an infinite time line he's bound to want to make an example out of you eventually.
Saying you belive you live in paradise tfor al eterinity and not actually die but simply be "moved" in your location, is the very definition of sugar coating it.
That's twice you've asked now, so I'm going to assume you're genuinely struggling to comprehend the point I'm trying to make. Let's try an analogy.
You work a hard job, long hours, but good money. You don't "love" your job, but it's OK and at least it has its recompenses (good wages, decent work environment). You're given an IOU for holidays owed - the company's busy so they can spare you sometime in the next few months.
You get the holiday time, and all's fine. Suddenly, you realise that as great your holiday (life) is at the moment, soon you'll have to go back to work (i.e. die). Work = not bad, good money etc remember, but you'd much rather be on paid holidays (alive)...
From my perspective, I don't care or worry about going back to work when the time is due. However I won't be looking at ways to end my paid holidays early so I can rush into work. Nor will I be happy if someone says "Hey I'm calling you back to work tomorrow", when I know I have a week left on my allowance, fully paid.
Likewise with life and death. While I have it I'll live it to the fullest of my ability. I'm always mindful of the inevitability of death, and I'll certainly take any chance I can to stave it off (fighting executioners, taking antibiotics if I get TB etc lol). However once that work week rolls around on the calendar, and it really is time, I won't begrudge it nor fear it. I'll just accept it as it is.
If you can't understand, I'm not sure how much more I can try to explain without tying us up in knots. When it's my time, I'll be happy with that and have zero cares about the dying thing. Meantime I'm in no rush, it doesn't mean I'm suicidal and any chance I get to continue living, I'll take.
You're only scared of the physical pain, not the mental suffering you could experience as a result of realising that you're dying?
How can you say that? When I've been in situations when I thought I was going to die I damn near **** myself.
I realised I'm dying ages ago. I've come to terms with it.
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I am normally of the opinion of not worrying about things you have no control over, but then also - I'd imagine if I was facing death, I'd be absolutely terrified.
So; I'm not scared or worried of death now, but I know I probably would/will be when facing it.
So; I'm not scared or worried of death now, but I know I probably would/will be when facing it.
I wouldn't call it an experiment, would you call your life an experiment? I can't elaborate much on it apart from if that's how God intended them to be, then that's how it is.
As far as it goes in Islam, they go straight to heaven as they are pure and don't have sins.
Everyone encounters Islam in one way or another. It's up-to the individual to look into it and if they convert then they do. People who convert to Islam are deemed more worthy I think. then those who are born muslim, their sins get forgiven. Same with all Muslims. There is a night in Ramadan called "Laylat Ul Qadr" it's the night of power. And when the prophet Muhammed PBUH had the first revelations of Qur'an told to him. On this night if a Muslim stays up the whole night praying and remembering Allah, their sins are forgiven.
No, they are not doomed. God can decide to send all the people who are against Islam to heaven. It's he who decides, people who have no control of their actions are not going to hell, as they have no control. They don't know right from wrong.
Yes, if God does want to make an example out of me, then he will. I could wake up disabled tomorrow, people would think the likeness of that happening is 1 in a billion or whatever, but if he wanted to he could.
Fair enough. But that's life after death. Death as when your soul is taken from your body cannot be sugar coated. Anyone could die at anytime.
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I fear the process of dying, the fear of rotting into nothingness the fear of never thinking, breathing, eating, sleeping, feeling etc again.
Biggest fear is just realizing you will die and when u are imagining the process and being dead it scares me that i get panic attacks at night with me dashing about saying im not going to die im not going to die etc.
Oh and i don't believe in anything as religion is man made so is utter lies. And soul etc, no we are in essence our brains and thats all we are in essence. Everything else is to support the brain i mean cut ur fingernail ur soul isnt cut is it lol or lose a arm or leg or both, u still got ur soul (brain) so i guess the point of the soul issue is that its just really our brains if u think about it. So really when you die ur brain is dead the brain is you so you are dead so their is no soul that carrys on as ur brain is u not a soul which ppl believe will exist afterwards. Sry if its confusing lol. Its near half 2 am..
Biggest fear is just realizing you will die and when u are imagining the process and being dead it scares me that i get panic attacks at night with me dashing about saying im not going to die im not going to die etc.
Oh and i don't believe in anything as religion is man made so is utter lies. And soul etc, no we are in essence our brains and thats all we are in essence. Everything else is to support the brain i mean cut ur fingernail ur soul isnt cut is it lol or lose a arm or leg or both, u still got ur soul (brain) so i guess the point of the soul issue is that its just really our brains if u think about it. So really when you die ur brain is dead the brain is you so you are dead so their is no soul that carrys on as ur brain is u not a soul which ppl believe will exist afterwards. Sry if its confusing lol. Its near half 2 am..
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I wouldn't go as far as to say it's utter lies, as that would imply vindictive intent. I would however, suggest that it is a misguided product of man's questioning nature.
The road to Hell, afterall, is paved with good intentions.
Only thing that scares me about death is that I might get the chance to think about everything I missed/didn't do or didn't say during my life.
I accept that my life has to end at some point yet I am very scared about people I know dying. Never had a family member or anyone else that I know die so don't know what it's like.
Edit: Actually, after giving it a though I also fear nothingness. That I won't be able to think again like I do now. Think that "it's over".
I guess sometimes I do wish that there was something to happen after.
I accept that my life has to end at some point yet I am very scared about people I know dying. Never had a family member or anyone else that I know die so don't know what it's like.
Edit: Actually, after giving it a though I also fear nothingness. That I won't be able to think again like I do now. Think that "it's over".
I guess sometimes I do wish that there was something to happen after.
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Are you scared of death?
Sure, a lot of people are not scared of death. I wasn't scared of death, that was until I stared it in the face.
It's a stupid question. Because until you experience it... you can't know. You can't quite comprehend what it is like until it happens to you.
For two years i was addicted to painkillers. About half a year ago, I went overboard. Stupidly overboard. When I laid there conscious, and realised that my respiratory system was no longer working by instinct, as I felt a strong urge to shut my eyes whilst my spirit was being lifted towards the ceiling away from my body, then I soon realised I was scared of death. Terrified infact.
So the answer now? Yes. No one is ready at this age. Unless they've had suffering like no other.
Sure, a lot of people are not scared of death. I wasn't scared of death, that was until I stared it in the face.
It's a stupid question. Because until you experience it... you can't know. You can't quite comprehend what it is like until it happens to you.
For two years i was addicted to painkillers. About half a year ago, I went overboard. Stupidly overboard. When I laid there conscious, and realised that my respiratory system was no longer working by instinct, as I felt a strong urge to shut my eyes whilst my spirit was being lifted towards the ceiling away from my body, then I soon realised I was scared of death. Terrified infact.
So the answer now? Yes. No one is ready at this age. Unless they've had suffering like no other.
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"We are all under a sentence of death, but with a sort of indefinite reprieve" - Victor Hugo
I can't say that I'm looking forward to death as there's no doubt so much that I won't have been able to do with my life that I'd like to have done. However I can't say I'm afraid of it either, this may be because it doesn't seem particularly immediate right now, I could die tomorrow but the odds are that I'll live for a good while longer barring any unforeseen accidents. Maybe in a situation where my mortality was more evident I'd feel somewhat differently.
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Yes this. And since I now have a bit of a family history of this, it scares me even more!
After reading all the contents of this thread, I think I might drive that little bit slower on the way to work this morning!
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