Exactly.
You put out your best players and if you are in a position to rest them then you take them off. It's simple. To leave them on the bench is stupid, especially when you consider our form.
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Exactly.
You put out your best players and if you are in a position to rest them then you take them off. It's simple. To leave them on the bench is stupid, especially when you consider our form.
What are peoples view on Giroud? he looks like he's going to be class, intelligent player, very much like Van Persie except slighty stronger, I have no idea why he didnt start against Bayern. As for Blackburn, i think Wenger was right to rest players but he should have started Cazorla against them, they had 5 attacking players and 5 defensive players at home agasint blackburn. Poor!
Do you not think money has a huge factor to play in all of this?
Do you not think money has a huge factor to play in all of this?
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Drafted 2 or 3 replies to this but none of them really effectively described my opinion on Giroud so I'll leave it as this - Chamakh mrk 2.0 but with no RVP restricting his appearances
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Giroud has his moments, but ultimately he is a freaking massive amount better than Walcott or Gervinho, so right now it doesn't matter, any semi important game he should start upfront, any time he doesn't, Podolski should, failing that just play 10 men from the start, Gervinho and Walcott are god awful upfront.
As for money, no, simple put we spent £50-60mil more than Spurs last year. Wenger will bang on about, lower first team wages and less spending, but thats HIS choice, its also his choice to pay guys like the Hoytes 10-20k a week for 5 years when neither can actually play football, to keep Randall around till he was like 23-24, and was clearly not good enough by 19, etc, etc, etc.
Wenger spends, he spends big, our wages have gone up about 150% now since the move from Highbury, he's spent £105mil in 2 seasons and most of that was on players who aren't good enough.
Wenger spends, simple as that, again I'll point out, last year City spent £200mil, Utd £160mil, us £143mil, Spurs likely between 80-90mil(not seen figures but they were on contracts that they got paid more IF they were in the champs league, wages were around 70mil before the champs league year, 90 or so during the season with CL, and its likely gone down to around 80mil since).
Now this season Utd are miles ahead of £200mil spending City, Spurs are doing much better than us, City are underperforming, but still second, wages to league position/points/last title, Arsenal are failing VERY badly, worse than essentially every single other team in Europe.
Big spenders in Italy, Germany, Spain, England have all won titles, often multiple titles, lots of smaller spending teams in all those countries have won titles... we spend more than most, yet have won nothing.
The worst thing is since the 60mil wages time around 2000-2004, the team has gotten worse while spending over double... if we were competitive or improving that is one thing, but worse EVERY single season?
Chamakh mark 2? what football you been watching?
Lol, you should watch full matches then. How many goals he scored this season?
Did you see that transfer info i posted a few pages ago? going by pure figures, Arsenal have nowhere near the spending power of the current top 4 yet they've qualified for Cl football every season. I think more blame needs to be put on Kroenke, you have the highest tickets prices in europe yet he has been swindling money out of the club for years and not investing back into the team. I cant see how wenger can compete with other clubs when you have an owner with a hidden agenda.
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In the PL? 9
In the Champions League? 1
In the FA Cup? 2 against Brighton
In the League Cup? 1 against Coventry and 1 against Reading
Of the teams around Arsenal (that being everyone from us to around Liverpool) every single one of them have at least 1 striker better than Giroud (bar maybe Everton), £10m was probably just the right amount to pay for a player of his quality
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14? not bad in the first season then. Next time you watch a full Arsenal game, just keep your eye on him. Seriously similar to RVP..
The only thing that makes him similar to RVP is he's a white male and he plays football
EDIT: Never understand this stupid argument that if you dont rate a player it's because you've only ever seen them in highlights either tbh, surely if it was the case that I've only ever seen him in highlights I'd of either only ever seen the best bits of him or nothing at all? It's the fact that I've seen him repeatedly over 90 minutes I know for a fact he's nothing above average.
EDIT: Never understand this stupid argument that if you dont rate a player it's because you've only ever seen them in highlights either tbh, surely if it was the case that I've only ever seen him in highlights I'd of either only ever seen the best bits of him or nothing at all? It's the fact that I've seen him repeatedly over 90 minutes I know for a fact he's nothing above average.
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Just proves you couldn't tell a good footballer if hit you in the face then.
Edit, lol...nevermind. Ps it was throw away comment when i posted before. No animosity.
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no one in the EPL is as class as RVP
what people are saying is that Giroud is a decent player. And if he continues to improve, he may become a world class player in the future.
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Are U some sort of grammer queen?
anyways i agree with DM. we have wasted far too much money on dross and that surely is down to wenger and not the board. i thought wenger had a degree in business economics or something like that?
Seems he got that degree from ebay
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First up, spending, we have VASTLY more spending power than Spurs, again you need to look beyond how much money is spent in transfers.
Take Utd for instance, I cba'd to pull up the figures, but lets say they spend 30mil on players over the next 4 seasons, 120mil, the wages they spend will be £170 this year, £180 next, 200 the year after, and 220 the year after that. £30mil wouldn't be a small amount to spend every year, but they will spend almost certainly over £1 BILLION in the next 5 years on wages... 100mil, 300mil in transfers... its barely a dent in the wages.
Transfer is the SMALL part of the equation, Spurs have spent a buttload in the transfer market in the past 5-6 years, so the hell what? Spurs spend £80mil a season and had a few seasons with £50mil transfer spending, that was mostly trying to establish a new squad that could better achieve their aims of getting competitive with the champs league spots, they've achieved this goal with the spending they've done.
Arsenal have different goals, we've spent less in transfers(net, which is fairly meaningless, we've spent a heck of a lot more than Spurs in the past 18 months though mostly on replacements). We've spent less in the past 6 years on transfers than spurs, but probably over 200million more in wages.
The ultimate thing is, if you bring in 50mil profit and decide to spend that on new players, or on more wages for the old players, thats what you've done, spend 50mil more, Wenger CHOOSES to spend this on vastly inflated wages on the worst members of the squad and the completely unproductive academy. No one forced Wenger to give Diaby 60k a week to sit at home pretending to be injured, every single year thats 3mil gone, 4 years ago minimum we should have gotten rid of him, thats 12mil wasted on a player who has offered nothing for the team in 4 years.
Arsenal do spend, they have vast spending power, under FFP we have an income massively above Spurs, they don't have remotely close to our spending power long term, but if they make a profit and save then every 4-5 years they can spend big for a season, we could do it every year if we weren't so massively wasteful.
The damning thing is, with all the extra wages, with all that spending while Spurs have achieved their goals, got to the champs league, and become competitive with 4th place, Arsenal are going backwards, have achieved nothing. Like I've said, no team in Europe has spent as much as us while winning absolutely nothing, getting to very few finals, looking completely uncompetitive in most competitions. WE haven't looked even slightly good enough to win the league or CL in 5 years, yet spending has increased every single year, while the team gets worse.
Giroud is no where near as good as RVP and really doesn't play the same at all, how is absolutely no where near as good on the ball, RVP is stronger and taller than most people think and he can happily drop deep, control a pass on his chest, turn a player and run at goal taking on a couple players in the process, I've yet to see Giroud come close, his dribbling hasn't been good at all. RVP's movement, technique and all around game is fantastic, Giroud is far more of a pass to him, move and he'll try and pass it back. I haven't seen much of anything that says he can move with the ball well, so I really wouldn't say he was anything remotely close to RVP in style, certainly not quality.
He might be half decent, he does things like offers himself for a pace and can see a 1-2 and play people in behind, something Gervinho/Walcott aren't even capable of, not that either tries to at all.
As for Giroud scoring well this season, he hasn't really, and Walcott hasn't improved an ounce in 5 years. Scoring more means nothing, I've yet to see Walcott "win" a game for us, and by that I mean, put in a performance that dragged a result out of the team. When he scores, its because he sits around up top, does nothing and gets lucky, when he doesn't score, its because he sits around up top and does nothing. He plays no differently or better when Arsenal win or lose, he mostly takes easy chances when the rest of the team is good enough to give him easy chances.
RVP, Henry, Pires, Cesc, Wilshire, Arshavin, Podolski, they can actually create a win themselves when the team is playing badly, Walcott can't, at all and has never done so for us.
The Reading 7 goal game is a prime example, in the first half there was exactly one player, Arshavin, on the pitch who did anything useful in the first half, Walcott got a goal because Arshavin worked hard and put one on a plate for him. Arshavin dragged that team, which was utterly pathetic, kicking and screaming to get back on terms with Reading. Walcott got some goals and some assists in that game, but when the team was simply disgraceful in that first half, it wasn't Walcott doing anything different, working hard, closing or winning the ball, and he didn't take the all from his own half and create chances for others, Arshavin got us back in the game, and WAlcott was the guy at the end of the moves getting lucky. ARshavin was the guy making runs, making crosses and making chances for everyone else till we were back in the game, at which point Reading were basically broken and we tore them a new one, by which point the entire team was playing very well and Walcott took advantage, he wasn't the guy that got us back in the game though.
You win games, and titles with 11 guys playing hard like Arshavin did, you lose games and titles with 11 guys like Walcott who just wait around for everyone else to do all the work.
Most of Walcott's goals are incredibly simple tap ins, how often is there some reason he's scored in a bigger game, red cards, injurys, or some mental game, Walcott scores in the 8-2 to utd because they just gave up needing to defend at all, and how many times does he score against the worst teams in the league. When was the last time we played a good team and Walcott was actually the difference, not the goal scorer, but the guy who broke the team down or worked hard, stood out, actually won the game through quality and work, I can't think of a single one.
He got a goal against Spurs, but they were down to 10 and very poor that day, he got three against Newcastle, and Reading, two teams in very poor form, playing badly, West Ham, Coventry, brighton, in another Reading game, Southampton, another West Ham game. Same story every year.
Giroud, is a MUCH better player who has influenced games MUCH more than Walcott, but his goals and assists this year, West Ham, Coventry, Fulham, Brighton, Spurs, Newcastle.....
There are a few games where Arsenal score a bunch, generally against a poor team and someone like Walcott pumps up his stats.
Arsenal need to stop being ONLY about the goals and assist stats(before anyone accuses me I have never solely used stats as an argument for anyone being good), and start looking at performances. Walcott will get a tap in, and be utterly invisible for the other 89 minutes.
Drogba might score, might not, but he'll work damn hard for every second on 90 minutes and they win a champs league, see the difference?
Performances, not stats, have a player with both and you win leagues, have Walcott, you win nothing, he's the exact type of player that is why Arsenal are looking worse every year. He's ineffective, limited, stupid, poor movement, no composure, he really is in every single way completely rubbish.
Giroud??...hes ok from what i have seen of him although he has missed a few sitters. Should have scored our second goal against Bayern in all honesty but from what i have seen of him, hes pretty decent...better than Chamakh and Gervinho put together and even Walnut to an extent.
One thing is for sure, he is no RVP...perhaps in a yr or 2 he may become as good as RVP but i highly doubt it. Personally i dont care if he becomes as good as RVP, i just want him to start scoring goals for us on a regular basis.
Hopefully next season will be a better one for him as he seems to be settling in pretty well so far...14 goals isnt too bad for his first season in all honesty.
One thing is for sure, he is no RVP...perhaps in a yr or 2 he may become as good as RVP but i highly doubt it. Personally i dont care if he becomes as good as RVP, i just want him to start scoring goals for us on a regular basis.
Hopefully next season will be a better one for him as he seems to be settling in pretty well so far...14 goals isnt too bad for his first season in all honesty.
Woot latest rumours are Wenger has £80million to spend this summer
Falcao on his way to Arsenal??...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...oasts-transfer-kitty-land-Radamel-Falcao.html
As much as id love to believe that, im sure we could meet the transfer fee but knowing how stingy we are with wages, we would probably offer him £70k a week to play for us
Taking it with a pinch of salt as i highly doubt Falcao would even look at us
Looks like Sagna is on his way out though after this year, wont accept a 1 yr extension to his contract.
Falcao on his way to Arsenal??
...http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...oasts-transfer-kitty-land-Radamel-Falcao.html
As much as id love to believe that, im sure we could meet the transfer fee but knowing how stingy we are with wages, we would probably offer him £70k a week to play for us
Taking it with a pinch of salt as i highly doubt Falcao would even look at us
Looks like Sagna is on his way out though after this year, wont accept a 1 yr extension to his contract.
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