Artifracting, is it my 3080 or G9?

[x-X-MIKEEE-X-x]

I've run the 3080 through the ringer all week and it hasn't had so much as a frame stutter let alone an artifact.

I have another possible culprit but like the Display Port cable I think it's a stretch / don't understand how it could be connected. Maybe someone with a better understanding than me might know.

I have a pair of Ballistix Sport LT 3200MHz sticks which have been running overclocked since Zen2 launched 2 years ago. (3773/3600Mhz, 16-19-12-12-32). These were stable after a 24 hour stress test back when I dialed them in. In addition to the black screens I recently had a couple of blue screens (kernel related, ntoskrnl.exe) which I chalked off to nVidia drivers but I now believe were memory issues.

I've just tried to apply my OC to these sticks and I can't even push them to 3333MHz, the memory overclock fail safe doesn't even kick in and I have to BIOS reset if I do anything outside 3200Mhz 16-18-18-18-38.

I guess the questions I have are:

• Is it possible memory issues can cause visual artifacts at all? I'm thinking the artifacts shown in my video weren't typical GPU artifacting.
• Does memory usually deteriorate like this or could it be the memory controller on the 3700X has gone?

Its funny I've just stumbled across this thread. Very rarely i get little black boxes on the screen when the gpu is idle so when I'm just using internet browser or on desktop etc. Gaming and under full load is completely fine. Its also a 3080 with a R5 3600x.

Maybe the gpu wasn't seated correctly in the pci-e slot on your pc?

 

[Kashinoda]

**SNIP**

Haha, that's the most reassuring thing I've read yet mate. I guess if stock levels were normal I would have let this go a wee bit sooner instead of turning into this.



I will say though that the memory chips on these cards do run hot. I'm now running an undervolt (850mv) from boot and performance is actually better. I've also massively upgraded the case and airflow, need to make sure it has the best possible chance

 

[Kashinoda]

Its funny I've just stumbled across this thread. Very rarely i get little black boxes on the screen when the gpu is idle so when I'm just using internet browser or on desktop etc. Gaming and under full load is completely fine. Its also a 3080 with a R5 3600x.

Maybe the gpu wasn't seated correctly in the pci-e slot on your pc?

Early teething issues still with these drivers I bet.

On the PCI-E slot you could well have a point, there's a lot of sag on the card too and in my current mATX casse its wedged on the front fans. I have a BeQuiet 802 coming this week and a support bracket for the card.

 

[HRL]

Probably entirely unrelated but I was having video drop outs when booting up. See the BIOS splash screen and then no signal just as it boots into Windows.

Turns out it was due to Fast Startup being enabled. It’s a hybrid hibernation, even though I’d already disabled hibernation. Doesn’t seem to play nicely with the 3-series cards.

Since disabled Fast Startup and not had a problem since.

 

[Albaba]

I was considering an undervolt but have just left it as it seems to be running fine. Max I've seen it get to is 76c in flight sim, not sure how toasty the memory gets....

 

[FlyingFish]

I was considering an undervolt but have just left it as it seems to be running fine. Max I've seen it get to is 76c in flight sim, not sure how toasty the memory gets....

Download and install HWinfo, let it run in the background. It's a great tool to monitor your system.
After you've taxed the GPU doing some gaming, check the GPU memory junction temperature in HWinfo to give you an idea. After a session of gaming mine maxes out at 90C, I can live with that.

 

[Albaba]

Yeah I have HWinfo but it doesn't seem to monitor the memory temps of the 3070. Only 3080 and above. Maybe only works on GDDR6x?

 

[Kashinoda]

Yeah I have HWinfo but it doesn't seem to monitor the memory temps of the 3070. Only 3080 and above. Maybe only works on GDDR6x?

Try GPU-Z, though it might depend if your card even has a sensor at all. I imagine the FE does though.

With regard to voltage and temps. I run a series of 5 minute runs in Port Royal looped, ignore the average column I was resetting the sensors too early.

MSI RTX 3080 Gaming Trio at stock (current, min, max, avg)


150mv undervolt, 1875MHz clock, stock fan curve
Difference to max readings vs stock:
-3.8 degrees on the GPU
-4.0 degrees on the memory junction
-783 RPM on the cooler (very noticable)


The memory junction temp is still high, but it's a barely making noise.

150mv undervolt, 1875MHz clock, MSI Afterburner default fan curve
Difference to max readings vs stock:
-15.5 degrees on the GPU
-14.0 degrees on the memory junction
-375 RPM on the cooler (noticable)


Now we're massively down on all temps whilst still using less cooling compared to stock.

I believe the card will start to throttle at 110 degrees on the memory junction.

With undervolting my performance is better too:
Firestrike @ stock: 17,501 GPU Score, https://www.3dmark.com/spy/20101266
Firestrike @ 850mv 1875Mhz: 17,597 GPU Score, http://www.3dmark.com/spy/20101415

Also power consumption drops from 340W to 250-70W

 

[Albaba]

Yeah it doesn't show in GPU-z either. Guess they didn't put a sensor in the 3070 memory. Ignorance is bliss though, it's probably a good thing I can't see it

That's pretty impressive stats on the undervolt mind, especially power usage and temps. Seems like the way forward....

 

[FlyingFish]

Kashinoda

I run about same memory temps at stock, just done a Timespy run and memory peaked at 86C. But I'm running full fat 350W (not overclocked, but 117% power) and the quiet Bios on the GPU, so core temps are around 65-70C

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/20129310

I can score a bit higher and run cooler (58C) if I have the bios set to Performance, but I've not bothered changing it back from when I updated the GPU bios for Resizeable bar.

 

[Kashinoda]

Kashinoda

I run about same memory temps at stock, just done a Timespy run and memory peaked at 86C. But I'm running full fat 350W (not overclocked, but 117% power) and the quiet Bios on the GPU, so core temps are around 65-70C

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/20129310

I can score a bit higher and run cooler (58C) if I have the bios set to Performance, but I've not bothered changing it back from when I updated the GPU bios for Resizeable bar.

Yeah your ASUS TUF is a much better card, they actually tried

The MSI Gaming Trio is meant to be the same tier but the cooling is crap without replacing thermal pads and for a high end offering it doesn't even have dual BIOS. I won't be going with MSI in the future, though the mindset these days has to be 'buy anything that's available'

That said, Timespy doesn't stress the card as much compared to Port Royal - worth running that looped for 5-10 minutes to see where your temps end up.

 

[dskeivys]

I’ve also had a somewhat similiar story.

One day my screen flickered black and my PC could not start , then I took everything out and replugged it and it worked for 7 hours and flickered black again and turnt off and then I got it running again and it started artifacting

The EZ DEBUG LED says GPU and ive decided to rma my 3080 to overlcokers

 

[FlyingFish]

I remember watching a teardown and thought it was quite cool seeing a separate mini heatsink inside the main assembly for the memory chips, and a nice metal backplate to help with the cooling. Every little helps
An hour of Cyberpunk gets the memory up to 90C, but the card runs about 5C hotter since enabling resizeable bar.

 

[deuse]

Try GPU-Z, though it might depend if your card even has a sensor at all. I imagine the FE does though.

With regard to voltage and temps. I run a series of 5 minute runs in Port Royal looped, ignore the average column I was resetting the sensors too early.

MSI RTX 3080 Gaming Trio at stock (current, min, max, avg)


150mv undervolt, 1875MHz clock, stock fan curve
Difference to max readings vs stock:
-3.8 degrees on the GPU
-4.0 degrees on the memory junction
-783 RPM on the cooler (very noticable)


The memory junction temp is still high, but it's a barely making noise.

150mv undervolt, 1875MHz clock, MSI Afterburner default fan curve
Difference to max readings vs stock:
-15.5 degrees on the GPU
-14.0 degrees on the memory junction
-375 RPM on the cooler (noticable)


Now we're massively down on all temps whilst still using less cooling compared to stock.

I believe the card will start to throttle at 110 degrees on the memory junction.

With undervolting my performance is better too:
Firestrike @ stock: 17,501 GPU Score, https://www.3dmark.com/spy/20101266
Firestrike @ 850mv 1875Mhz: 17,597 GPU Score, http://www.3dmark.com/spy/20101415

Also power consumption drops from 340W to 250-70W

The trick is to keep the temps below 55C to get the most out of a RTX card.
My 3090 sits @ 27C with the fans off and 55C when playing in 4K.

The boost stays at 2070hz with no over clocking.
Memory junction sits at 60C when gaming.

 

[FlyingFish]

Water cooled?

Or just playing patience

 

[Cyber-Mav]

Well I did try to RMA it

The problem I have now is it's magically working and no matter what test I throw at it I can't replicate the problems I was having previously.

if you rma it and they test it and its working fine too your just gonna get the same card back hopefully without pay a test fee.