ASDA Parent & Child parking - fine for misuse

[TW]Fox;10895458 said:
Has it not occured to you that if you went on your own you'd get the shopping done in half the time and be at home quicker to spend PROPER time with your child?
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With all due respect, don't you think that I might just be smart enough to make my own conscious decision on what I think the optimum way to maximise the "quality time" that I get to spend with my little one.
Personally I'd rather try to enjoy ALL of my time, than consider the 45 jaunt to Sainsburys as a horrible chore that keeps me away from the rest of my family.
 
v0n said:
Which insisting that shopping is some kind of family attraction is part of really.
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No it just a reality of life, I can remember going shopping with my Mum all the time when I was little, my sister was at school and my Dad was at work.

This meant my Mum could get the shopping out of the way with a little hassle as possible meaning as a family we could do more exciting things as a family at the weekends
 
[TW]Fox;10895527 said:
How do they affect you? They can annoy their mates without bothering you. But a kid can't scream its lungs out without bothering you.
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What makes you think you can define what annoys or doesn't annoy other people?
 
Mr_Sukebe said:
With all due respect, don't you think that I might just be smart enough to make my own conscious decision on what I think the optimum way to maximise the "quality time" that I get to spend with my little one..
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You might well be but to say the same of the entire British public is more neive than I'm being accused of in this thread (For daring to have an opposing opinion, omg). Many parents dont have a clue. The amount of screaming kids I see where their parents assume the best way to deal with the problem is simply to whack them continually amazes me.

To be honest it's perfectly possible that the average parent in this thread is not the problem and doesn't have the sort of children that have caused the opinions of the non-parents in this thread.

You must realise that decent parents are not in exhuastive supply. There are no minimum qualifications before you can be a parent and unfortunately, lots of idiots have kids as well as you decent chaps.

It's these people that cause the problems.
 
[TW]Fox;10895557 said:
You might well be but to say the same of the entire British public is more neive than I'm being accused of in this thread (For daring to have an opposing opinion, omg). Many parents dont have a clue. The amount of screaming kids I see where their parents assume the best way to deal with the problem is simply to whack them continually amazes me.
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South West TBQH :p

Its clear your generalisations are based on your exposure to less than typical UK settlements.
 
monkeyspank said:
You said above that one thing annoys me but another thing wouldn't. It might be your opinion but it is very wrong.
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To be honest we all know your 'opinion' was a thinly veiled insult aimed at me anyway, I doubt you even notice 'jumped up knowit all little twits' in pubs, you were just after a subtle way to let everyone know thats what you think of somebody you dont know outside of the internet without falling foul of the rules :p
 
[TW]Fox;10895557 said:
You might well be but to say the same of the entire British public is more neive than I'm being accused of in this thread (For daring to have an opposing opinion, omg). Many parents dont have a clue. The amount of screaming kids I see where their parents assume the best way to deal with the problem is simply to whack them continually amazes me.

To be honest it's perfectly possible that the average parent in this thread is not the problem and doesn't have the sort of children that have caused the opinions of the non-parents in this thread.

You must realise that decent parents are not in exhuastive reply. There are no minimum qualifications before you can be a parent and unfortunately, lots of idiots have kids as well as you decent chaps.

It's these people that cause the problems.
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So what's the proposal? Do you intend to add some kind of moron test at the door for people with kids?
"Sorry maam, you only scored 89 on your IQ test, can't bring you kid in here. Now bugger off and take your snotty little screaming bratt to that downmarket shop across the way."

If the above is not exactly a sensible approach, then will this be a simple ban on all kids in supermarkets, which to me strikes me as being as bad as racism.

Did I miss something?
 
[TW]Fox;10895557 said:
You might well be but to say the same of the entire British public is more neive than I'm being accused of in this thread (For daring to have an opposing opinion, omg). Many parents dont have a clue. The amount of screaming kids I see where their parents assume the best way to deal with the problem is simply to whack them continually amazes me.

To be honest it's perfectly possible that the average parent in this thread is not the problem and doesn't have the sort of children that have caused the opinions of the non-parents in this thread.

You must realise that decent parents are not in exhuastive supply. There are no minimum qualifications before you can be a parent and unfortunately, lots of idiots have kids as well as you decent chaps.

It's these people that cause the problems.
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Not that I agree with totally. So what we are actually saying is Parents who take their children to supermarkets to beat them, and let them run riot are the issue. Those who take their children to the supermarket and either keep them in the trolley, or who have kids who behave are not the issue. Is that right?
 
My father has a blue badge, as he has Chrone's disease and other problems. Some days are mild pain, others are moderate or severe. If he is in mild pain and goes out he tries to walk like he's not in pain cos he finds it embarrassing. I guess you would only know about that if you were going through that.

I would hate for some one to let his tyres down or vandalise his car as they 'thought' he didn't look disabled, as that would be really unfair.

So report them to the police if your that bothered. Take a pic on your camera phone or something.

I'm grateful that I'm not disabled. So I don't park in the disabled spaces. I don't have kids yet, but I might find it handy to have wider spaces when I do. i don't see what all the fuss is about to be honest.
 
Im going shopping (retail) with my 6 day old and 21monther. Ill try to keep out of the way all you good fellows wanting an simple life and Ive remembered to pack my muzzles and tranquilisers.
 
Jonnycoupe said:
South West TBQH :p

Its clear your generalisations are based on your exposure to less than typical UK settlements.
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I'm fully prepared to accept that - demographically speaking the South West is poor (in terms of quality) and this is bound to have an impact on what constitutes average parenting. But this is the area I live in and spend my time in, so obviously my opinions will be based on what I see around here.

Everyones opinions are affected by where they live whether they care to admit this or not :)
 
Royal Fleet said:
Not that I agree with totally. So what we are actually saying is Parents who take their children to supermarkets to beat them, and let them run riot are the issue. Those who take their children to the supermarket and either keep them in the trolley, or who have kids who behave are not the issue. Is that right?
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Yes, thats right. I don't even notice kids who sit quietly and well behaved in the trolley. I've no reason to and they can't possibly bother anyone.

They are in the minority, at least around here :(
 
[TW]Fox;10895593 said:
To be honest we all know your 'opinion' was a thinly veiled insult aimed at me anyway, I doubt you even notice 'jumped up knowit all little twits' in pubs, you were just after a subtle way to let everyone know thats what you think of somebody you dont know outside of the internet without falling foul of the rules :p
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The point I was making is that you don't always get everything exactly the way you want. That's the thing about society, you have to share it. I hate having to listen to loud mouth pricks gobbing off in pubs, but I have to put up with it if I want to stay there. They have as much right to be there as me. Same goes for the things that annoy you.
 
[TW]Fox;10895557 said:
It's these people that cause the problems.
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as a parent

i know exactly what you mean. You walk round the supermarkets in the rougher areas (theres a big tesco and asda in leicester, both slap bang next to council estates) and you get all sorts walking round there

the way they handle their children makes me cringe. It requires parenting skills to get your child to respect you, such that when you tell them off, they can tell when they've been naughty. But sadly, it seems these sort of people dont have them.

The parents that randomly just whack their kids / shout really loudly at them to no effect make me cringe, they can see it doesnt work but carry on using the same methods anyway. Once the childs respect for the parent has gone, it can be hard to get it back, but its a sign you're doing something wrong and need to change the way you look at your child.

And for those few ocassions when your child does throw the most allmighty of wobblers, and refuses to listen to you, you've got no choice other than to take them home and put them straight in their room. Your stressing yourself out, the child out and the rest of the shop out, so it does nobody any good to carry on as if nothing is happenning.

But sadly not all parents will do that, so what can you as a individual do ? nothing, except just put up and accept thats life
 
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[TW]Fox;10895618 said:
Yes, thats right. I don't even notice kids who sit quietly and well behaved in the trolley. I've no reason to and they can't possibly bother anyone.
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At the 10:1 ratio of the misbehaved ones.

Buy a car, you will notice loads more of them on the road, its all about perception, what you're looking for and what stands out.
 
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