ASDA Parent & Child parking - fine for misuse

No it just a reality of life, I can remember going shopping with my Mum all the time when I was little, my sister was at school and my Dad was at work.

I think those trips on foot around town to shop with your mum are slightly different tho - what we see here is almost like adding child to your life rather than building life around children - beside regular tradition of driving to remote place, spending few hours pushing the trolley around we now discover, daddies taking kids to the pub because he wants to booze up with mates. "And who are we to stop his lifestyle in its paces". That's just one screwed up generation growing up there by the look of things. Plus interesting outlook from parents "Thy shall not be allowed to escape your neighbours annoying kids in any place at any time"
 
Plus interesting outlook from parents "Thy shall not be allowed to escape your neighbours annoying kids in any place at any time"

I think that the assumption that you might be able to avoid a child at a supermarket during the day might be a little flawed though don't you :) If I go to my local Tesco at 19:00/20:00 it's devoid of anybody, adults/chidren/singles etc, if you want a nice quiet shop then that's the time to go.

Also there are lots of parking spaces free meaning you don't *HAVE* to walk miles to the shops, you poor lambs with your weak legs ;)
 
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I think that the assumption that you might be able to avoid a child at a supermarket during the day might be a little flawed though don't you :)

Perhaps, but you see, for the majority of the first three decades of my life I felt the society was in complete angreement - we do shopping because we must eat. And just like other things we must do, without much of enjoyment you want to do it quickly, efficiently and get back to your life. The plague of children in supermarkets and supermarkets going out of their way to encourage these "family events", it's relatively new marketing development. And let's face it - we notice them kids because they DON'T ENJOY IT. If they are screaming, crying, sobbing, throwing tantrums, when they are bored, push trolleys into people, play on store furniture or run away from their parents, I'm going to make wild guess and reckon - they don't really enjoy being there. And why should they really. Shopping is, after all, neccessity - a chore, not pleasure - just like cooking or cleaning is. So what it comes down to for me is - of course I don't expect to see no children whatsoever in supermarkets, I'm just against the new fashion of supermarkets being the new Sunday attracton - the new zoo's, trip to playground and cinema show replacement in one.
Kids clearly don't enjoy shopping, we, shoppers don't enjoy it, and you shouldn't fall for the propaganda that it's ok to make it into family event - shop quickly, spend quality time with your kids - don't make them do your sunday chores instead and impose it on others in process. Let the front parking spaces go to old people, let your kids watch disney while you shop for their breakfast, let others enjoy beer in a pub without your little one screaming his lungs out of boredom.
 
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Also there are lots of parking spaces free meaning you don't *HAVE* to walk miles to the shops, you poor lambs with your weak legs ;)

It's more likely that they can't actually afford any shopping after having paid the extra fuel bill to get to the far side of the carpark, those big beemers burn it something nasty :D
 
Perhaps, but you see, for the majority of the first three decades of my life I felt the society was in complete angreement - we do shopping because we must eat. And just like other things we must do, without much of enjoyment you want to do it quickly, efficiently and get back to your life. The plague of children in supermarkets and supermarkets going out of their way to encourage these "family events", it's relatively new marketing developments. And let's face it - we notice them kids because they DON'T ENJOY IT. If they are screaming, crying, sobbing, throwing tantrums, when they are bored, push trolleys into people, play on store furniture or run away from their parents, I'm going to make wild guess and reckon - they don't really enjoy being there. And why should they really. Shopping is, after all, neccessity - a chore, not pleasure - just like cooking or cleaning is. So what it comes down to for me is - of course I don't expect to see no children whatsoever in supermarkets, I'm just against the new fashion of supermarkets being new zoo's, playgrounds and cinema trips in one on Sundays. They clearly don't enjoy it, we, shoppers don't enjoy it, and you shouldn't fall for the propaganda that it's ok - shop quickly, spend quality time with your kids - don't make them do your sunday chores instead and impose it on others in process. Let the front parking spaces go to old people, let your kids watch disney while you shop for their breakfast, let others enjoy beer in a pub without your little one screaming his lungs out of boredom.

If you think that like, then no wonder you hate shopping.
Anything and everything you do in life is an enjoyable as you CHOSE for it to be. I happen to not mind chilling out and taking it easy whilst shopping. Along the way, my little one doesn't seem to mind at all.

So who's got the problem here, me or you?
Put it another way, isn't life all about enjoying yourself and making the most of it. So who is it who's decided that say 1% of your life has to be a miserable time?
 
Sorry, but having kids should not give you any rights above somebody without kids, especially when those without are paying higher taxes to help pay for a large majority of the little "loves"!!!

You choose to have kids; you should be the Only ones paying for them, kids today are disrespectful, ignorant brats, mainly becuase the Family unit is not what it used to be, with parents working long hours and generally not giving a damn what their kids get upto.

So i can understand why somebody without kids would find it hard to be swammped with the rug rats wherever you go!

Sorry but wtf?
I pay more than somone on minimum wage earns in tax a year and thats before corporation and other crap that the government takes off of me, then, because I buy more things for a 3rd head, i pay more vat on the additional items.

I think you can guess where you can stick your tax arguement :]

A lot of pubs have areas where children are not allowed, so cant argue about that can you.
Why go shopping at a time of day when you know families will be there with kids? Having no kids to worry about you should be able to choose a more suitable time for yourself.
 
Why go shopping at a time of day when you know families will be there with kids?

I guess most people go shopping whilst on the way too or from somewhere else. I can't remember the last time I went out simpy to visit the supermarket but I will often call in on the way back from work/uni.
 


I think the problem you have is that the children that do the things you describe have parent that don't give a ****.

For parents that are "conscious" of how there children behave you will find that their children are probably pretty well behaved, apart from the odd aboration.

HEADRAT
 
Considering that these days, most of us including parents (those that arn't on benifits and free housing!!), work long hours and thus are limited in what time we can shop, i find any time is a good time to hear a screaming brat in my local shopping centre.

And Morba, why should you not pay for the extra head, ever hear of the food air deal... you know... so little food, so many mouths to feed... you bring another mouth into the world... you Should pay extra for the privalage!
 
FOX

You really are going to get the shock of your life when you have children.

Good luck - your going to need it.





My daughter knows to look after cars (ours and others) since me having the scoob and she has respect for most things (clothes all over the place but shes a girls girl). However.......

Not so long ago, myself and my daughter went to Tesco. The doors on my MK3 Golf are quite heavy and rather than wait for me to open the door, she did so herself (Something she has never done before hence not realising the weight of said door) She couldn't hold the weight of the door so let it go.

It swung out and smacked the wing mirror of a MK4 Astra with so much force it knocked the plastic colour coded cover off. Very embarrased and with a few choice words from me I went round and picked up the cover.

There was no obvious damage and the paint of the cover wasn't marked. With a quick shove it "popped" back on and all seemed well. As no harm done I chose the best option all round to jump in and flee the scene ASAP. :)

It wasn't until we got to the junction, my daughter said "The man didn't say anything?" "What man" I asked "The man in the car"

Hadn't realised there was some chap sat in the passenger seat of the Astra and never said a word. Wasn't sure which I felt bad for the most, fleeing like a chicken or possibly having intimidated the chap in not getting out and having words with me.

True story. :)
 
I think the trick is to keep the 'girlfriend' once girlfriend=wife you have lost that argument.

Anyway having kids is great, if hard at times. You rediscover the simple pleasures in life, and you get to be a kid yourself all over again!>
 
Considering that these days, most of us including parents (those that arn't on benifits and free housing!!), work long hours and thus are limited in what time we can shop, i find any time is a good time to hear a screaming brat in my local shopping centre.

And Morba, why should you not pay for the extra head, ever hear of the food air deal... you know... so little food, so many mouths to feed... you bring another mouth into the world... you Should pay extra for the privalage!

You are missing my point, because of the money i earn we get next to nothing back from the government. Your assumption that parents are money grabbing gits is very wrong.
I do pay for everything that my boy has and have never argued about it, so why are you?
It has nothing to do with the arguement that is P&C spaces.
 
Along the way, my little one doesn't seem to mind at all.

Unfortunately most children around your chilled out kid don't seem to take it as easy. Otherwise we wouldn't have this conversation.

So who's got the problem here, me or you?
You of course. You don't understand the nature of the issue we are talking about but you are ready to jump to throats because "someone questions my god given right to do what I want, where I want with MY kid". That's not the argument.

Put it another way, isn't life all about enjoying yourself and making the most of it. So who is it who's decided that say 1% of your life has to be a miserable time?

Exactly. So why impose misery of someone else's kid on my routines in spare time?
 
You don't understand the nature of the issue

What exactly is the "nature of your issue", if you don't like the reality of the fact the parents will shop with their children then it seems that the easiest solution is shopping when they aren't around.

Otherwise I don't see what you are proposing apart from some kind of enfored curfew!

HEADRAT
 
Exactly. So why impose misery of someone else's kid on my routines in spare time?

You know that children will be there, so your insistance on not accepting this simple fact causes yourself misery.
Why make yourself miserable?

Also, why impose your misery on parents routines which is generally ahrd enough already?
 
Unfortunately most children around your chilled out kid don't seem to take it as easy. Otherwise we wouldn't have this conversation.

You of course. You don't understand the nature of the issue we are talking about but you are ready to jump to throats because "someone questions my god given right to do what I want, where I want with MY kid". That's not the argument.

Exactly. So why impose misery of someone else's kid on my routines in spare time?

To which I'll maintain an earlier post, just how are you going to differentiate between my family and someone else with a screaming kid? Do you intend to have automated sentry guns at the front of the store to scare away noisy kids?
If you intend to put a blanket "don't bring your kid in here", then you include myself and my family. Now don't you think that I might just take offence at that?

Personally I find that there are some things in life that annoy me too, e.g. morons on the road, but I try to avoid getting to the point off feeling necessary to spout off about it, as it's simply not worth wasting my life on the subject.

We have far too little time in life to spend time moaning about things. Get a grip, chill out and try and enjoy it. If you try smiling a bit more, maybe you won't frighten the kids around you the next time you go shopping and they won't scream.
 
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