ASDA Parent & Child parking - fine for misuse

SB118 said:
I have noticed these threads usually fall into two camps. The people who have shiney cars and don't want anybody going near them, and the people who actually have kids and understand how useful the facilities are.
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And the third camp, the people who have kids and still are capable of respecting their fellow road users' vehicle by telling their kids not to get out by themselves right after parking. This way kids will learn a good thing and appreciate other peoples property down the line.

I also see MPVs with kids hopping out cracking the door into the post next to it or the car on occasions, parents mosey out shortly after no more aware.
 
SB118 said:
I have noticed these threads usually fall into two camps. The people who have shiney cars and don't want anybody going near them, and the people who actually have kids and understand how useful the facilities are.
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I was in both camps. I had my scoob and I had a young daughter and I still didn't use M&B spaces.

Every time this topic comes up I state my findings and it gets ignored.

Those without children and a shiney car use M&B thinking their car is safer - YOUR WRONG!

Next time you go to the supermarket watch a parent, a child and the trolley. In this day and age of media informing us that theres a Pedo behind every bush, a parent will not leave a child alone. 9 out of 10 trolleys will be left behind. All the dumped trolleys are by the M&B spaces.

I would have to laugh very loudly in the face of some young tike who thought his car would be safer using an M&B space to find a trolley has scratched and dented his car.
 
I am amazed at the posts in this thread from people about Disabled parking spaces.
It doesn't matter if it is "legally enforceable" or "There is nothing they can do about it" - for gods sake people, do you honestly only ever think about yourselves?
Sure there are a percentage of people who have illegal disabled badges, those that "borrow" them etc.
However this is a low percentage (despite what some of the press will tell you) compared to those people who legitimately own the badges and who need them.
So some of these people don't "look" disabled.
I'm sure that there are a few of you people who park in disabled spaces who don't "look" like morans...
Just because I can get out of a car without too much hassle and walk to a store doesn't mean I'm not disabled (I'm not actually disabled BTW).

"Oh but there were 10 disabled spaces available".
So why should the tenth disabled person who arrives be put out by you?
This is a courtesey thing and it just shows what condition this country is in these days.

One weekend we went to our local Tesco as usual.
I'd hurt one of my legs so I wasn't in the mood for a shop, so my wife went in to do it herself (she is far better anyway and probably gets it done a lot quicker without me and my "Can we have this?").
Whilst sat in the car I took photographs of plenty of cars that decided they shouldn't have to walk, that their needs were more important than everyone else.
The pictures were up on my website for quite a while - only removed when I did my last revamp, but they will go back up again.

The world doesn't revolve around you.
Stop thinking totally about yourselves (some of you) - disabled people need those spaces and the "Legally not enforceable" maybe a reason why you "could" use the spaces.
However the fact that your a human and show compassion to others, especially those less fortunate should mean you wouldn't even consider it.
 
Echoing Stoofa's comments, people's arrogant comments about Asda et all not being able to legally enforce restrictions/fines is a reflection of the Me, Myself and I culture.

Using these forums you are expected to follow some code of conduct as what you post will have an affect on those viewing it. If you breach the rules then your suspended or permabanned, simple as.

If you have enough respect of an online forum to follow its rules then why is it so hard to abide by those in the real world?

If you don't like the parking guidelines of a supermarket carpark then don't shop there, you have made the choice to go there so why look for loopholes to get out of being socially responsible?
 
HEADRAT said:
The problem is lots of people lead very busy lives, both Mum's and Dad's now have to work so I think you'll have to put up with it I'm afraid!

As a parent I'm completey sick of the attitude towards us in this country, do you think parenting is easy, do you think parents want to have a wailing child in a supermarket of course they don't. My children are generally extremely well behaved and hold the trolley or stay close when shopping, they obviously do have their moments like any child!
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Totally agree.

The attitudes i sometimes read on here are frankly tragic.
 
Because if you've got kids it automatically makes you a better person and you should look down on those who chose not to have them.
 
What really boils my pee far more than misuse of the parent and child spaces is the terminally lazy ignorant gits that can't be arsed to push a trolley a few yards back to a trolley park, so they just leave it free to be blown around into cars. :mad:
 
Dogbreath said:
What really boils my pee far more than misuse of the parent and child spaces is the terminally lazy ignorant gits that can't be arsed to push a trolley a few yards back to a trolley park, so they just leave it free to be blown around into cars. :mad:
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I walked back to my car last week and as I approached it I saw a trolley flying towards the car at some speed after being caught by the wind. I literally had to leg it to the back of the car to catch the trolley :eek:

Hate to think what would have happened if I was 20 seconds later out of the supermarket :(
 
[TW]Fox;10894077 said:
Because if you've got kids it automatically makes you a better person and you should look down on those who chose not to have them.
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OTOH, if you have kids you are automatically a second class "whinging parent" with the parking skills of a moron?

Needs to be a bit of give and take on both sides.
 
Dogbreath said:
What really boils my pee far more than misuse of the parent and child spaces is the terminally lazy ignorant gits that can't be arsed to push a trolley a few yards back to a trolley park, so they just leave it free to be blown around into cars. :mad:
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£1 in a trolley like at Aldi gets rid of that problem :)
 
[TW]Fox;10894077 said:
Because if you've got kids it automatically makes you a better person and you should look down on those who chose not to have them.
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No, it means that you have to look after a little unpredictable person and that a parent while responsible for their childs actions will not be under 100% control of them all of the time (unless you put a choke chain on them).

This means that just a "little" understanding in needed from others, that throwing "dirty" looks at a parent when their child starts to "act up" in a Supermarket is not really called for. That trying to run your child over either in car park or with a trolley in the supermarket is likely not to be greated with a smile.

HEADRAT
 
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Dogbreath said:
OTOH, if you have kids you are automatically a second class "whinging parent" with the parking skills of a moron?
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Yes, thats exactly right, I'm branding my own parents 'second class' and implying they have the parking skills of a moron.

Come off it Dogbreath you know exactly what my point is. You live in Plymouth, I'm sure you've seen some of the amazing 'parents' you'll find dragging sprogs out of MOT failiures at your local Morrisons.
 
HEADRAT said:
This means that just a "little" understanding in needed from others, that throwing "dirty" looks at a parent when their child starts to "act up" in a Supermarket is not really called for.
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A huge majority of parents don't even appear to care - they'll drag their sprogs kicking, screaming and balling around the supermarket thinking the only justifiable way to shut them is to give them an almighty whack. If you've just popped in for a bit of shopping and had to suffer 6 of these brats so far if your kid happens to have his once every 6 month cry he simply becomes number 7 in the eyes of the childless people..

The noise of a babies crying is designed to irritate so that the parent will see to the childs needs. Thats the natural part of it. Unfortunately, it irritates everyone around them as well. Whilst 1000 years ago the child might have been the communual responsibility of the tribe or whatever, I dont care about kids in Sainsburys :p
 
This is a great example of how, in the main, people are unwilling to think about how a little consideration for others would make a big difference to other people, but would rather make their own life as easy as possible.

The attitudes shown above are pretty poor to be honest. Rather than agreeing to follow the request/instructions of the shop that they have chosen to visit which allows free parking, the effort is put into justifying why they should be able to disregard the rules.
Rather than think "is it legal", how about thinking "Is what I'm doing out of selfishness a nice thing to do?"

Sadly, unless it has a financial or legal implication to themselves, most people will just think about number one.
 
emailiscrap said:
This is a great example of how, in the main, people are unwilling to think about how a little consideration for others would make a big difference to other people, but would rather make their own life as easy as possible.

The attitudes shown above are pretty poor to be honest. Rather than agreeing to follow the request/instructions of the shop that they have chosen to visit which allows free parking, the effort is put into justifying why they should be able to disregard the rules.
Rather than think "is it legal", how about thinking "Is what I'm doing out of selfishness a nice thing to do?"

Sadly, unless it has a financial or legal implication to themselves, most people will just think about number one.
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Completely agree. Good post.
 
[QUOTE='[TW]I dont care about kids in Sainsburys :p[/QUOTE]

Then go in the evening when there aren't any children about, simple. Parents with young children are bound to go shopping during the day, that's when the child is awake and probably other sibling are at school etc.
 
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[TW]Fox;10894077 said:
Because if you've got kids it automatically makes you a better person and you should look down on those who chose not to have them.
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Exactly :p

There is a middle gorund between those two ends of the scale you know.
 
[QUOTE='[TW]If you've just popped in for a bit of shopping and had to suffer 6 of these brats so far if your kid happens to have his once every 6 month cry he simply becomes number 7 in the eyes of the childless people..[/QUOTE]

Id rather have one of the 6 brats than a retarded kid who expresses emotion only twice a year TBQH.

I think it highlights what you dont understand, children on their homes with toys are happy things. When you either take then in supermarket by hand or dropped in a metal caged seats occasions occur where they may get frustrated, but yet its hardly practical to let them explore unsupervised. You'd only be moaning they were running around your feet ;) Babies are no problems in supermarkets anyway, its toddlers, and that natural irritating type cry has progressed to a more typical cry anyway, of course not all parents are happy just whacking in a dummy or feeding them chocolate when this happens.
 
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[TW]Fox;10894077 said:
Because if you've got kids it automatically makes you a better person and you should look down on those who chose not to have them.
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Reality dawns at last :D
 
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