Ashes of the Singularity Coming, with DX12 Benchmark in thread.

Stanners · 7 Sep 2015 at 11:06

flopper said:
Kepler is already dead in water for dx12.

AMD made the plan for dx12 and its now at least a generation ahead of nvidia.

You brighten my day

Cyanide · 7 Sep 2015 at 11:07

Given Nvidia's market share it's going to suck for game developers if they don't sort this. Plenty of enthusiasts may switch cards to get good DX12 performance but the vast majority of the paying public won't - they'll just think they've got a badly made game if it doesn't run well.

Orangey · 7 Sep 2015 at 11:10

Cyanide said:
Given Nvidia's market share it's going to suck for game developers if they don't sort this. Plenty of enthusiasts may switch cards to get good DX12 performance but the vast majority of the paying public won't - they'll just think they've got a badly made game if it doesn't run well.

Sounds like it's time for that long-needed re-education campaign. How many people have been mindlessly buying NV all these years since the G80 or before?

Welcome to the new age, to the new age~

Stanners · 7 Sep 2015 at 11:11

Cyanide said:
Given Nvidia's market share it's going to suck for game developers if they don't sort this. Plenty of enthusiasts may switch cards to get good DX12 performance but the vast majority of the paying public won't - they'll just think they've got a badly made game if it doesn't run well.

Have you actually looked at the benchmark thread for this game, who is performing best?

Stanners · 7 Sep 2015 at 11:12

Orangey said:
Sounds like it's time for that long-needed re-education campaign. How many people have been mindlessly buying NV all these years since the G80 or before?

Welcome to the new age, to the new age~

Did you not buy a TX?

Cyanide · 7 Sep 2015 at 11:14

Stanners said:
Have you actually looked at the benchmark thread for this game, who is performing best?

Nope, there's loads of conflicting information flying around everywhere at the moment from both sides about DX12 performance. I'm staying out of it until the initial dust has settled down

Kaapstad · 7 Sep 2015 at 11:15

Cyanide said:
Given Nvidia's market share it's going to suck for game developers if they don't sort this. Plenty of enthusiasts may switch cards to get good DX12 performance but the vast majority of the paying public won't - they'll just think they've got a badly made game if it doesn't run well.

Most gamers will wait until upgrade time before getting a next gen DX12 card. It is not like there is going to be a tsunami of DX12 titles in the next 12 months.

The one thing that the AOTS bench proves is gameplay and image quality is perfectly ok on DX11 (for NVidia a least).

Stanners · 7 Sep 2015 at 11:18

Cyanide said:
Nope, there's loads of conflicting information flying around everywhere at the moment from both sides about DX12 performance. I'm staying out of it until the initial dust has settled down

Not a bad call, I personally think it will be 50/50 game dependant. We shall see though in time

Gregster · 7 Sep 2015 at 17:14

Stanners said:
Did you not buy a TX?

He sure did but feels it only right to call people "brainwashed" etc who buy top tier Nvidia cards. Kinda sad really.

tommybhoy · 7 Sep 2015 at 17:42

Bit of buyers remorse going on in mm, TX looking for a third owner in as many weeks, either that or he read this thread and worked out he can get a faster Ti with some cash back.

Gregster · 7 Sep 2015 at 17:48

tommybhoy said:
Bit of buyers remorse going on in mm, TX looking for a third owner in as many weeks, either that or he read this thread and worked out he can get a faster Ti with some cash back.

If I had the cash, I would snap it up but I would want that Philips 40" 4K or the new ROG 3440x1440P 100Hz to justify it

tommybhoy · 7 Sep 2015 at 20:54

Is general game IQ actually 'worth' that kind of outlay?

I don't think mgpu support/quality is actually worth what they're asking for now, best bet is waiting to see how DX12 mgpu support pans out, fluff articles promise improved IQ/support but they're almost always never keepers.

Gregster · 8 Sep 2015 at 08:32

tommybhoy said:
Is general game IQ actually 'worth' that kind of outlay?

I don't think mgpu support/quality is actually worth what they're asking for now, best bet is waiting to see how DX12 mgpu support pans out, fluff articles promise improved IQ/support but they're almost always never keepers.

Having had the Samsung 4K, I do feel the IQ is better but with my ageing eyes, not sure it is worth the layout and I am not a fan of MGPU either and had nothing but a hard time with microstutter, so I really do want to avoid going that route. If a TX came up for £500, I would consider it but not overly fussed.

Streetlight · 8 Sep 2015 at 09:11

Gregster said:
Having had the Samsung 4K, I do feel the IQ is better but with my ageing eyes, not sure it is worth the layout and I am not a fan of MGPU either and had nothing but a hard time with microstutter, so I really do want to avoid going that route. If a TX came up for £500, I would consider it but not overly fussed.

surely not going that cheaply are they?

Gregster · 8 Sep 2015 at 10:19

Streetlight said:
surely not going that cheaply are they?

Not that I have seen but here is hoping

andybird123 · 8 Sep 2015 at 12:07

tommybhoy said:
Is general game IQ actually 'worth' that kind of outlay?

I don't think mgpu support/quality is actually worth what they're asking for now, best bet is waiting to see how DX12 mgpu support pans out, fluff articles promise improved IQ/support but they're almost always never keepers.

I ummed and arred about going back to SLI, but 3 of the 4 games I have installed right now get quite a big boost so I am happy I did

witcher 3 went from 80fps to 120fps so +50%, star citizen went from 60fps to 120 so pretty much perfect scaling... the only thing I'm actively playing that doesn't support SLI is Arkham Knight and that is still around 80-90fps so its not that bad

I had been concerned about potentially getting 3440x1440 but these results have convinced me it'll be fine, if DX12 improves scaling then that'll be a nice bonus

whether any of it is "worth" it to anyone else I have no idea, but my PC is my main hobby so I have no particular issue spending 1k every now and then - my X79 sell off funded 80% of my X99 build, selling my Titan's covered both my 980ti's and selling off my DGM's more than paid for the Swift, so I haven't really spent any more on my PC since I did that entire build albeit that was quite a big spend at the time

Howling · 8 Sep 2015 at 12:14

andybird123 said:
star citizen went from 60fps to 120 so pretty much perfect scaling...

Can you just confirm that one? As far as I was aware it had yet to have any multi gpu support, and they've said they're not working on it until later in development O.o

andybird123 · 8 Sep 2015 at 12:48

Howling said:
Can you just confirm that one? As far as I was aware it had yet to have any multi gpu support, and they've said they're not working on it until later in development O.o

It wasn't working for ages, but as nvidia added an SLI profile it does now seem to be working on NVIDIA, looking at the forums it seems AMD isnt

I'm just playing with AotS right now but when I put my second card back in I'll do some screenshots on SC

Howling · 8 Sep 2015 at 12:53

Ah fair one, wasn't aware. Nice scaling on that then

Could do with some love thrown my way, it isn't really playable at 4k at the minute

Gregster · 8 Sep 2015 at 21:59

[fanboymode]Just read this and proper laughed (after looking at the AOTS bench thread)

Nvidia’s GTX 900 series graphics cards are capable of handling Async Compute, but right now the software just doesn’t support the feature. But with Oxide Games helping the graphics giant out, hopefully it shouldn’t be long before those Ashes of the Singularity benchmark tests start to look a little more even.

http://www.pcgamesn.com/ashes-of-th...y-support-async-compute-with-software-drivers
[/fanboymode]