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Asking someone where they are from
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Also, something which appears to have been missed in this thread (or at least not brought up enough), is that an eye witness to the actual conversation said this:
An eyewitness to the conversation, Mandu Reid, told BBC News that Lady Hussey's questions had been "offensive, racist and unwelcoming".
The leader of the Women's Equality Party said she had felt a "sense of incredulity" about the exchange in which Ms Fulani was interrogated about where she was from, even though she had already explained she was born and lived in the UK.
I am sure the usual suspects on this forum will do their best (worst), to try and discredit this woman as well though..
An eyewitness to the conversation, Mandu Reid, told BBC News that Lady Hussey's questions had been "offensive, racist and unwelcoming".
The leader of the Women's Equality Party said she had felt a "sense of incredulity" about the exchange in which Ms Fulani was interrogated about where she was from, even though she had already explained she was born and lived in the UK.
Lady Susan Hussey quits over remarks to charity boss Ngozi Fulani
A palace aide steps down over remarks made to Ngozi Fulani at a reception hosted by the Queen Consort.
www.bbc.co.uk
I am sure the usual suspects on this forum will do their best (worst), to try and discredit this woman as well though..
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Its racist to assume she's from Africa, just like it's racist to assume someone from Korea is from China, or someone from India is from Pakistan, or even if somebody is dressed in a stripey top wearing a beret and a string of onions round their neck automatically assuming they are French
Surely a good way to get rid of assumptions is to ask questions...
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Also, something which appears to have been missed in this thread (or at least not brought up enough), is that an eye witness to the actual conversation said this:
An eyewitness to the conversation, Mandu Reid, told BBC News that Lady Hussey's questions had been "offensive, racist and unwelcoming".
The leader of the Women's Equality Party said she had felt a "sense of incredulity" about the exchange in which Ms Fulani was interrogated about where she was from, even though she had already explained she was born and lived in the UK.
Lady Susan Hussey quits over remarks to charity boss Ngozi Fulani
A palace aide steps down over remarks made to Ngozi Fulani at a reception hosted by the Queen Consort.www.bbc.co.uk
I am sure the usual suspects on this forum will do their best (worst), to try and discredit this woman as well though..
You have found a mixed race bisexual, well done. As a third party she allegedly found Lady Hussey's questions unwelcoming, a bit like she treated her baby when she, post coitus, decided it was a detriment to making money and had it aborted. But of course, she's just the average woman
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How is that racist?
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Her first 3 stupid replies were -
Lady SH: “Where are you from?”
Ms Fulani: “Sistah Space.”
SH: “No where do you come from?
Ms Fulani: “We’re based in Hackney.”
SH: “No, what part of Africa are YOU from?”
Ms Fulani: “I don’t know, they didn’t leave any records.”
This is obviously a woman who was looking for somebody to slip up and she decided to do it with an 83 year old
What?
I do think the hair movement was also very rude, at best. Not sure why that bit has been widely missed out. Just adds more weight to the idea that Hussey felt she was above the other. Black hair (Afro/dreadlocks/braids/etc) has become politicised, and is a sensitive subject - we’ve all seen stories of schools and workplaces discouraging these hair types and forcing women with them to change their identity to fit in.
I couldn’t imagine anyone moving a blonde woman’s hair out the way, or moving a beard. Why did Hussey felt she had the right to physically touch someone uninvited?
It does add to the idea that Hussey felt above this other person based on their identity, so I’d probably suggest the questioning, whilst it could be innocent, wasn’t in this case.
I couldn’t imagine anyone moving a blonde woman’s hair out the way, or moving a beard. Why did Hussey felt she had the right to physically touch someone uninvited?
It does add to the idea that Hussey felt above this other person based on their identity, so I’d probably suggest the questioning, whilst it could be innocent, wasn’t in this case.
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Exactly! It would make much more sense if 'where are you from' referred to her heritage, right? (Especially considering what you are wearing at that time)
The world has gone mad if this is true.
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Ssshhhhh, nobody wants to hear that
prior art. racism definition from 2020 youguv (note: 'ever happened', not, times per month); youguv doesn't seem to have polled the general population on current event.
juxtaposed, UK accent discrimination/racism, poor brummmies
maybe the event will indirectly help reduce Albanian immigrants - the palace took one for the team.
juxtaposed, UK accent discrimination/racism, poor brummmies
maybe the event will indirectly help reduce Albanian immigrants - the palace took one for the team.
Why is it racist to assume an Indian isn't from pakistan? We are the same "people".
Why is it racist to assume a Korean is from China? Being ignorant of their characteristics is now racism?
Finally, saying: "even if somebody is dressed in a stripey top wearing a beret and a string of onions round their neck automatically assuming they are French" is using a stereotypical parody of French people... where are the cries of racism here?
You guys are laughable.
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Racism - "Racism is the belief that groups of humans possess different behavioral traits corresponding to inherited attributes and can be divided based on the superiority of one race over another." (Wikipedia)
Or maybe - "prejudiced against or antagonistic towards a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized." (Google)
I don't see how wrongly assuming someone's nationality fits either of these?
This world is going the wrong way with everyone looking 'what could be bad' in everything. Some people just make mistakes or are just not so clever...
Or maybe - "prejudiced against or antagonistic towards a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized." (Google)
I don't see how wrongly assuming someone's nationality fits either of these?
This world is going the wrong way with everyone looking 'what could be bad' in everything. Some people just make mistakes or are just not so clever...
You don't think not accepting someone's answer about where they're from isn't antagonistic and prejudicial based on purely on what they look like?
It's easy for Europeans to ignore the sleights of parody and mockery of individual nations or regions within nations as they largely don't care about it as it doesn't effect them enough (though in my opinion this is naive as it clearly does lower their living standards if they're perceived as stupid/poor), but for someone who looks wildly different and who has almost certainly experienced racism throughout their life it is understandable that they might not have much patience for 'mistakes' or 'jokes' which can so easily be cover for legitimately-held prejudice.
It's easy for Europeans to ignore the sleights of parody and mockery of individual nations or regions within nations as they largely don't care about it as it doesn't effect them enough (though in my opinion this is naive as it clearly does lower their living standards if they're perceived as stupid/poor), but for someone who looks wildly different and who has almost certainly experienced racism throughout their life it is understandable that they might not have much patience for 'mistakes' or 'jokes' which can so easily be cover for legitimately-held prejudice.
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No, not "exactly" at all. It was reasonable to assume she meant which charity/organisation she was from.
No, not when 'what they look like' is that they are clearly trying to show their proud heritage as being from a different country and then keep replying 'this country'.
If it had gone -
"Oh how interesting, from where are your ancestors" (Or something along those lines, tbh I don't even know what the correct way to ask is...)
"The UK"
"No, where is your heritage from"
"I was born in the UK"
"Yes, that's lovely. But what about your ancestors?"
"I'm British"
"..."
Surely this is not racist?
To me, it's just she didn't phrase her questions correctly.
Okay, I give you I'm not up on exactly what was said,- so my apologies. I thought everyone has been saying she kept saying she was British? How is that an answer to what charity are you from?
**EDIT** Can someone link to a transcript for me please?
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