Asking someone where they are from

If they want to ask about heritage ask clearly.

Don’t beat around the bush and say things like “where are you really from” as that makes the person feel like they don’t belong.

It isn’t that difficult.
It is an 83 year woman we are talking about. It may well be “that difficult”.

Given who the charity is for, domestic abuse of woman of African and Caribbean descent my guess is it was an attempt to talk about heritage. Not well thought out questions but hardly the terror of black woman is she.

Also when Ms Fulani is quoted based purely on this event as saying;

“[it is] bigger than one individual. It's institutional racism".

My opinions of the entire conversation change somewhat.

Also the only account of the conversation I have seen was from the memory of Ms Fulani.

Not excusing the potentially poorly worded (frustrated) questions but honestly this just doesn’t look like what the media would have you think.
 
Why does it matter where her heritage is from?



Dont be silly are you really trying to say that old people, especialy one of such importance the the royal house are stuck in the past?
It matters because someone is showing an interest in someone else's story and history. You say this like it's some sort of negative question to ask when she was clearly being curious.

It's pathetic how easily people get offended these days.

If she didn't like the line of questioning then she could have just said she would rather not say
 
Which she isn't. She is from Britain.

Her parents were from the Caribbean.

Im well aware of that, I was just repeating the bit where she asked where Ngozi’s parents were from and how rudely she said “oh finally we get there”
 
It matters because someone is showing an interest in someone else's story and history. You say this like it's some sort of negative question to ask when she was clearly being curious.

It's pathetic how easily people get offended these days.

If she didn't like the line of questioning then she could have just said she would rather not say

Okay mate dont get offended.
 
The BBC will be aghast at the lovely lady as her late husband was Marmaduke Hussey, a chairman of the BBC who gave them much needed grief over the Bashir / Diana interview scandal and forgeries. Expect nothing less than an evisceration from the Corporation :)
 
You do realise this isnt what the discussion is about right?
It's exactly what this conversation is about.

That if you're from a different background to the native population in a country then its not out of the realms of possibility you'll be asked what your background is, even if you are born here. The woman asking the question was obviously clumsy in the way she asked about it. But why take offense.

I'm beginning to think you live in an all white area. Because you seem to have little understanding of the interactions with minority groups. 9 times out of 10 this situation is a none issue. This person as chosen to make it an issue.
 
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What are your thoughts on this situation, GD?


I'd take the precise recanting of it with a pinch of salt tbh.. but the general gist of it is that she's asking about her heritage and isn't aware of the latest woke rules that say that's now a faux pas these days seems quite plausible. It's become a trope now, there are multiple comedy sketches with the same basic "but where are you really from" joke. That doesn't make it inherently wrong to ask, though some upper-class, potentially out-of-touch Lady in Waiting asking the question in a clumsy manner to a black female charity/activist type is a recipe for disaster, she's not going to be charitable about it, just a load of attitude in reply, the big chip on her shoulder can get bigger and of course, off to the media, she runs...

This is the same charity that seems to like to run to the media whenever it has a dispute with Hackney Council too:
 
Because I am from the UK and consider myself a UK citizen. Asking "where I'm really from" comes across as if I'm not of this country. It's just tactless and needless. If you're really interested in my family heritage then ask that. Don't ask where I'm 'really' from because shockingly enough, I'm *really* from the UK.
You might have UK citizenship but you may obviously not be naturally from England? I don’t think that’s rude to query. All depends on phrasing but nonetheless you’d have to be being quite obtuse not to realise what the person asking is getting at.

Are people equating UK citizenship to = from England the country? Cause they’re very different things.
 
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It's exactly what this conversation is about.

That if you're from a different background to the native population in a country then its not out of the realms of possibility you'll be asked what your background is, even if you are born here. The woman asking the question was obviously clumsy in the way she asked about it. But why take offense.

I'm beginning to think you live in an all white area. Because you seem to have little understanding of the interactions with minority groups. 9 times out of 10 this situation is a none issue. This person as chosen to make it an issue.

I get the feeling Fulani has taken exception to the high handed approach utilised and decided to turn it into a race issue. I wouldn't take it well if someone came at me in a similar way and increasingly have less patience with those who've grown to think it acceptable, though it may come from relatively blinkered life experiences, lacking self-awareness, rather than done with any intent.
 
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I'm beginning to think you live in an all white area. Because you seem to have little understanding of the interactions with minority groups. 9 times out of 10 this situation is a none issue. This person as chosen to make it an issue.

Its like you have never read any of my posts before. If I grew up in an all white area then I might have the same view as you but I didnt and I dont.

I grew up in south London in the 70s 80s and 90s. Most of my friends growing up were not white english (heritage). Infact quite a lot of the time I was the only white english heritage there. I grew up in a fairly black dominated group. That is why I know quite a bit about how young non white kids were chased through the streets and called racist names. I have a fair bit of knowledge as regards to racist **** heads thanks.
 
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I get the feeling Fulani has taken exception to the high handed approach utilised and decided to turn it into a race issue. I wouldn't take it well if someone came at me in a similar way and increasingly have less patience with those who've grown to think it acceptable, though it may come from relatively blinkered life experiences, lacking self-awareness, rather than done with any intent.

Mate you freaked out when I called you a northener because you lived outside London..
 
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The woman, for some reasons, reminds me of Camila Batmanghelidjh. Another charity CEO that liked and hit the media. Then too many questions were asked for which she had no defining answers and her world and charitable status fell apart...


Gut feelings need not always be indigestion.
 
I get the feeling Fulani has taken exception to the high handed approach utilised and decided to turn it into a race issue. I wouldn't take it well if someone came at me in a similar way and increasingly have less patience with those who've grown to think it acceptable, though it may come from relatively blinkered life experiences, lacking self-awareness, rather than done with any intent.

This, I also think walking up to a stranger and moving their hair so you can read their name badge probably set the tone of how things were going to be moving forwards
 
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The woman, for some reasons, reminds me of Camila Batmanghelidjh. Another charity CEO that liked and hit the media. Then too many questions were asked for which she had no defining answers and her world and charitable status fell apart...


Gut feelings need not always be indigestion.
what an odd thing to bring up.
 
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