Asking someone where they are from

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Ive had this question asked loads, 99% of the time it doesnt bother me, but if someone gets my back up then i will be abtuse as it gets. It is infuriating that your colour will always precede you, doesnt matter 'how british/english' you feel.
 
Tony Edwards said:
Lets remember she asked an asian decent lawyer dressed in a freaking suit. Where do you come from and he said UK. He wasnt wearing national clothing. Can you all stop saying she was wearing traditional africa clothing. It has **** all to do with it.
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Does this not show she asks many people this question at these types of events? Which would be reasonable, because these types of events are probably populated by lots of foreign people normally?
 
Given the lady in question has resigned and the Buckingham palace have officially apologised, and stated racism has no place in society or the royal establishment I’ll take their word over the apologists and their never ending explanations on how it wasn’t racist. :cry:
 
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BowdonUK said:
I've had people ask me bluntly what is wrong with me physically. One old woman, a stranger to me, came up to me when I was in town when younger and spoke over me, asking the person with me, "can he play in the garden?". I could have easily made that in to an issue. But unlike many people I don't think people are perfect. For me its more about their intention.
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Are you comparing race with physical disablity?
 
Craterloads said:
Given the lady in question has resigned and the Buckingham palace have officially apologised, and stated racism has no place in society or the royal establishment I’ll take their word over the apologists and their never ending explanations.
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Do you honestly believe that the resignation happened as an admission of guilt?

It will have been to protect against public pressure from a minority of people.
 
Reality is it was a mildly racist event by a super old out of touch aristocrat, and perhaps a little belligerence by the victim.

A bit of a non story, Lady resigns, Buckingham palace apologises we all move on.

Press milking it for what ever reasons making headlines.

Ocuk doing ocuk things making a 40 page thread out of one that deserved a few pages at best. People pulling out dictionary definitions of racism, suggesting (probably in jest) the Lady H was speaking pidgin English to the victim because of how she looks and every other bizarre reasoning to why it wasn’t mildly racist resulting in this highly entertaining monster of a thread. :D
 
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Craterloads said:
Ocuk doing ocuk things making a 40 page thread out of one that deserved a few pages at best. People pulling out dictionary definitions of racism, suggesting (probably in jest) the Lady H was speaking pidgin English to the victim because of how she looks and every other bizarre reasoning to why it wasn’t mildly racist resulting in this highly entertaining monster of a thread. :D
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Well don't we have to try and defend ourselves against being accused of being racist when we aren't? You know how much of a touchy subject racism is, how subjective it can be.

I dont particularly care about this one event and either of the people involved in it, but I do care about the precedent it sets.

It was the same with the George Floyd case.
 
dowie said:
I mean she runs a racially segregated service as a charity, it's quite apparent she's prejudiced albeit in a socially acceptable way.
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Jono8 said:
Love these threads. They really get the masks off :)
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Yes indeed, I guess if you're OK with racism so long as it's deemed socially acceptable then that's on you.


Elizabeth has kept her muggle name rather than changing it to a Nigerian one and allegedly isn't sufficiently pure blood enough for the charity chief.
 
danlightbulb said:
Well don't we have to try and defend ourselves against being accused of being racist when we aren't? You know how much of a touchy subject racism is, how subjective it can be.
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But people are defending, even at best mild racism. People are making excuses for the at best mild racism.

What meaning are people meant to take from that?
 
Tinders said:
This thread did not disappoint :p

Ive had this question asked loads, 99% of the time it doesnt bother me, but if someone gets my back up then i will be abtuse as it gets. It is infuriating that your colour will always precede you, doesnt matter 'how british/english' you feel.
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i used to get regularly asked what part of scotland i was from when i lived in Belfast many years ago. on at least 2 occasions that i can remember i had to tell the person questioning me to politely '**** off' because they wouldn't accept i was from Norn Iron.........and i'm white as a sodding snow man, just happen to apparently sound scottish (a fate worse than death i might add :cry: )

some folk are just bumholes who need to be told to do one. this non news story just highlights what a nation of babies the country is becoming, lets not deal with someone annoying me right here and now.....lets go crying to social media. personally i'd have just told the auld biddy to go away and sniff her armpits once i'd answered her the first time about where i was from.

racism has no place in any society but equally people need to be clued up enough to know when someone is just an obvious balloon and when someone is a closet KKK member.
 
Tony Edwards said:
But people are defending, even at best mild racism. People are making excuses for the at best mild racism.

What meaning are people meant to take from that?
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Its being defended because many people don't think it is racism. An objective assessment, looking at the definition of actual words, is in my opinion reasonably clear but at best unclear either way. If the original alleged conversation is examined, there are several possible interpretations of the intent, or approach of the specific parties involved in it.

I think its right that racism should be called out but if we allow every little thing to be accused of racism then we risk undermining our personal freedoms and ability to have a view on things or defend ourselves in certain situations without it being labelled as racist.
 
Interestingly the last time she was at the palace before this incident she was LARPing as an Ethiopian.

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Igbo name, a sort of Zulu-style outfit this time, an Ethiopian dress last time...
 
dowie said:
Interestingly the last time she was at the palace before this incident she was LARPing as an Ethiopian.

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Igbo name, a sort of Zulu-style outfit this time, an Ethiopian dress last time...
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I sometimes wear football shirts of different teams and nations, does that mean I’m larping as a footballer.

I’ve worn Arab dress, does that make me a Arab larper.

I’ve even worn a Christmas jumper, does that make me a Christian larper?
 
Craterloads said:
I sometimes wear football shirts of different teams and nations, does that mean I’m larping as a footballer.

I’ve worn Arab dress, does that make me a Arab larper.

I’ve even worn a Christmas jumper, does that make me a Christian larper?
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Well, yes... I mean less so if you're just wearing the shirt but certainly not uncommon for kids to want to buy and wear the full kit of their favorite team and indeed get the name & number of their favorite player put on it.
 
dowie said:
Yes indeed, I guess if you're OK with racism so long as it's deemed socially acceptable then that's on you.


Elizabeth has kept her muggle name rather than changing it to a Nigerian one and allegedly isn't sufficiently pure blood enough for the charity chief.
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The fact that so many black people are calling her out on it on twitter speaks volumes.
 
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