ASRock 775Dual-VSTA for Conroe (Core2) with both AGP/PCI-E and DDR1/DDR2 support

Temperatures?

I know that Intel CPU's were supposed to run a little hot but I've just nearly had an heart attack when I've checked my temps :(

I've just installed one of these boards with an E6600. I'm running at stock everything on a stock cooler, and the Intel thermal analysis tool is saying I've got idle temps of about 45° and if I run the TAT stress test, I've had one core hit 67° with the other a couple of degrees lower :eek:

I've had the HSF off twice to make sure it's sitting correctly and to apply some AS5, but my temps are still pretty much the same.

I know that the thermal limit for one of these is 85°, but should I be concerned/go looking for solutions with these sort of temperatures? I performed a search of this thread but couldn't find anything pertinent.

Cheers, dagwoood.
 
dagwoood said:
I know that the thermal limit for one of these is 85°, but should I be concerned/go looking for solutions with these sort of temperatures? I performed a search of this thread but couldn't find anything pertinent.

No, you should not be concerned. These chips have thermal protection built in to them and they throttle and shut down if they become too hot. Mid-60's temperatures with the stock cooler are fine, especially if your case has poor airflow and/or the PC is in a warm room.

It is quite likely that your processor has a non-flat integrated heat spreader (IHS - the metal cover over the cores) and that you have poor contact with the heatsink.

If you feel the need for lower temperatures to could try an Arctic Freezer 7 Pro as a cheap upgrade cooler. That is generally held to drop your temperatures by 7-10 degrees over the stock Intel cooler or you could lap the IHS but that will invalidate your warranty. If you get an AC Freezer you will notice that the thermal interface material (TIM) they supply is a very thick layer. This is done on purpose to get around the problem of the IHS not being flat on Intel coolers. They fill the gaps with TIM! The old advice used to be to put on a very thin layer, but you might find that a bit of "wastage" helps with the stock cooler as well.
 
I emailed as rock about the graphics card issue. They said any brand of the chip sets listed will work fine. It is just the list is the cards they tried with it. Any further issues i had to email the card makers themselves to check compatibility issues. No problems with most cards which is nice.
 
A question....

What is the difference between ATX and ATX2?

Just worried that if I buy the ASRock 775 DUAL, it won't fit into my old tower case!! I currently have an ABIT KR7A-R motherboard (ATX) and not kept up with the new terminology and specifications of the latest components!

I assume the power supply to an ATX2 motherboard is the same as an ATX one?

Cheers in advance to anyone who answers!
 
Bernie_Li said:
I assume the power supply to an ATX2 motherboard is the same as an ATX one?!
that is where the difference lies. dimensions wise they are the same but atx2.0 has different power requirements. im sure someone who knows more about it will explain it
 
WJA96 said:
No, you should not be concerned. These chips have thermal protection built in to them and they throttle and shut down if they become too hot. Mid-60's temperatures with the stock cooler are fine, especially if your case has poor airflow and/or the PC is in a warm room.

It is quite likely that your processor has a non-flat integrated heat spreader (IHS - the metal cover over the cores) and that you have poor contact with the heatsink.

........The old advice used to be to put on a very thin layer, but you might find that a bit of "wastage" helps with the stock cooler as well.

Thanks for that WJA96 :) After making my original post I've since found out that it's common for the IHS not to be level and extra TIM normally helps. I've been a bit more generous with the AS5 and it's lowered the temps by a couple of degrees; hopefully when it's settled in my temps will drop a bit more.

I had originally put the normal amount of AS5 on(ie half a grain of rice size)as, as you said, you normally put a small amount on as "less is more" normally, but that's when my temps were at their worst.

Methinks I'll invest in an Arctic Freezer Pro in the not too distant future :D


As to monitoring s/w, TAT seems to be the only one that gives a sensible reading of temps, along with CoreTemp. Speedfan's readings were stupid; it was the same with Next Sensor. Anyone suggest any other s/w that works please? Preferably freeware :o Is there any that's not a core temperature monitor, as I could then make a better comparison of what my old CPU ran at compared to my new one.

Cheers, dagwoood.
 
No reason why it won't work with that Graphics card as far as I can tell. :) As for the x1950 Pro, my 3d mark 05 score was 8750 with the Dual-vsta, This jumped to 10,500 when I changed to the DS3. Not sure how much that was to do with the varying drivers, but regardless, it was quite an increase! You couldn't really tell in gaming though.
 
Currently running the FSB at 266. Noticed that the "stock" settings had it set to 257 which set my RAM to 193 which made it quite unstable. Now that it is on its perfect optimal settings the ram crashes are less frequent. It tends to get through memtest without a problem but I haven't performed a long term test on it yet. It still crashes after anywhere from 10-60 minutes gameplay. I've started playing Battleground Europe a lot which really doesn't test the RAM much so that's a bit more stable.

Running Bios 2.40 and speedfan now crashes my computer every time I try to start it. CPU-Z crashes it every second time or so. Both result in a freeze requiring a reset.
 
I have to be honest, I do want to buy this motherboard, but it seems like it is very liable to crash...

It makes me really think it isn't a good idea, because the stability is low/bad?
 
Dunno what to say but every thread about new motherboards always has
people with Hardware problems and crashes.

Most of the problems are down to people buying this board then expecting it to overclock when the board was just designed as a bridge to allow people to mix
old hardware with new until they can afford to upgrade.I've been running this board for a few weeks now and have never crashed once until i overclocked
my d 805 past 3.4 from it's stock 2.66 and then it just refused to reboot and bootguard kicked in and set it back to default.And i've yet to do a fresh install of windows as i just cloned over my old copy so it's full of old drivers yet i have
never had one driver conflict or problem.

?
 
Yea it seems that the majority of people have no problems with this board. It is a very good board it just seems to have compatibility issues with some memory types that causes problems like mine. But if it werent for this board then I'd have been stuck with a C2D and nowhere to put it!

My personal problems with it seem to stem from poor Hynix memory from dell that has already been used for almost 3 years so it's probably not in its best condition anyway.
 
@ Darg

Don't know if this is of any help

http://www.asrock.com/support/faq.asp?Model=775Dual-VSTA

Question: I'm using the Core 2 Duo E6XXX CPU and DDRII 533/667 RAM on 775Dual-VSTA motherboard. But the system is very unstable. Sometimes it gets blue screen or fail when installing the Windows XP or some applications. How do I fix this problem?(9/19/2006)
Answer:Please refer to following steps to fix this problem.

1. Please set the "DRAM Frequency" as "[333MHz (DDRII 667)]" in BIOS setup if you use DDRII 667 RAM. (BIOS/ Advanced/ Chipset Configuration/ DRAM Frequency)

2. Please enable the "Flexibility Option" in BIOS setup if you use DDRII 533 RAM. (BIOS/ Advanced/ Chipset Configuration/ Flexibility Option)

3. If the problem still remains, please update the BIOS to P1.80 or later version.
http://www.asrock.com/support/download.a...el=775Dual-VSTA#bios
 
Following a disastrous "simple" upgrade 6800GT > 1950pro AGP on an Abit BE7 I bought this board as an intermediate step and am delighted. It worked and has continued without fuss 3D05 went from 6000 to 9800 with a bit of OC on the C2D

Great value for money
 
@Ice Tea: Thanks but I'm using DDR1 400mhz stuff at the moment. I have tried looking everywhere and haven't seen a solution and I have tried just about every different BIOS setting possible by this time. I am just slugging it out until I can scrounge or buy some DDR2 stuff. That's my next step on my way to a decent motherboard. After that it's merely a case of selling my 7600GT AGP and buying a PCI-E card (7600GT or higher) hopefully with little cost and a €80-90 SATA harddrive.

My only regret with my upgrade is that I bought an AGP 7600GT when, if I knew I was going to have to upgrade my motherboard anyway I could have bought a PCI-E version for cheaper and without the need to change cards again.
 
Has everyone installed the Hyperion IDE/SATA driver when they installed this board?

I ask as at one time VIA recommended you just use the native XP IDE drivers; I didn't know this and installed them, only for "odd" stuff start to happen and I had to do a fresh install :(

I've had the board a week now and I'm running it with the IDE drivers XP installed but wandered whether to install the VIA ones.
 
got me new X1600 pro sapphire card and 19" widescreen tft today.

small problem. i put the card in the pci- slot an it booted and evrything going ok till windows detected the new card and monitor.

my software won't install as it says it needs a vga compatible driver. i have tried re-installing under the system profile with the xp disc, ati driver disk, monitor disk and motherboard disk but to no avail.

picks up my little TNT 2 card straight away no problems. whats wrong, is the card incompatible with the mobo or windows???

also, now it won't display a pic past the windows xp screen on boot up.

arrrggghhhhhhhh!!!!!
 
every time i install ANY ATI driver, it freezes at the windows load screen after reboot, and i need to DriverCleaner the VGA drivers from my system before i can boot again. This happens on stock settings AND on overclock (when i had probs i reset the BIOS), so dont give me any of that "probs are because people expect the board to overclock" NO SWEARING!.....

its an AGP X800XT PE

I'm getting an X1950Pro PCI-E delivered Fri, so ill test if its an AGP-only prob with me, but if the PCI-E is NO SWEARING! too, i will be royally annoyed.

Oh, and i'm using the most up to date BIOS, and all my other hardware is sound.


READ THE RULES
 
simonnance said:
so dont give me any of that "probs are because people expect the board to overclock" NO SWEARING!.....

If you read my post at no point did i imply that all ASRock 775Dual-VSTA
problems are down to people expecting the board to overclock when i infact said that all threads about Motherboards have people with hardware and driver problems which has no reflection on a boards stabilty.I ponted out most peoples
problems with this board being stable tend to be when it is overclocked when everything else seems to be working so i fail to see what that has to do with your software / driver conflicts as that type of problem has been a part of computing sinse day one regardless of the board.
 
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