Assange to go!

[[TW]Fox]

No they stopped cooperating with the authorities quite some time ago.

It's good to have some inside knowledge - why has the case not been dropping if the victims are no longer interested?

Mind you, can you blame them? They just wanted what they felt was justice not this ridiculous farce. You can hardly be suprised that they've decided to distance themselves from things - that doesn't mean it was all made up.

 

[stockhausen]

it's that simple, if he is innocent then the Swedish courts will clear him and he will be free to go ...

You don't think that it is remotely possible that the moment the cabin doors are closed the US will make an extradition request and regardless of the outcome of any sexual assault trial, the Swedes will hang onto him and eventually hand him over?

... don't get all this support for him, just usual conspiracy theory loonies

Frankly I think that anyone who believes that Assange will not end up in America is a loony.


ps - personally, I can't stand the odious man, despite the part he played in demonstrating how devious and generally dishonest various Governments are.

 

[Chris [BEANS]]

id still like to know why the swedes refuse to question him in the uk. seems really odd especially as according to a guy on newsnight they where happy to travel to eastern europe to speak to a murder suspect.

Rather than re-answer this, I figured I might as well quote a post from just the last page....

Why should they?

Can you imagine a suspected burglar demanding he isn't taken into custody bur rather interviewed in his own home? The accused doesn't get to demand where and when they can be questioned and it is arrogant to assume someone should have that power.

Besides, let's say they do come over, question him here and aren't satisfied with his answers, what then? Do you think asssange would happily go and face a trial in Sweden? No, then he'll want to be tried here, which would mean leaving the embassy which he won't do.

If the Swedish authorities were to meet Assange's demands, they would have to come here, interview him inside the embassy (with Ecuadorian officials looking on and threatening to throw the Swedish prosecuters out at any time) and then have no power to hold him to account if they aren't satisfied with his answers.

Interviewing him here doesn't solve the problem, it just shifts it to the next stage.

 

[regulus]

Who has he killed to escape questioning by Swedish authorities? Have I missed something? Did he run across the rooftops shooting coppers as he pirouetted from building to building before bungee-jumping down clock tower into an awaiting speedboat with a scantly clad Ecuadorian secret agent inside to whisk him to safety?

Now now, leave his fantasy world devoided of any facts, well alone mister!

 

[philip2009]

Apparently the poor sod is bordering on depression in the embassy basement.

According to reports it would be pretty hard for him to reach the basement(with the only exit being through the front entrance)-

The property has several gated entrances and a private car park, but the Ecuadorean embassy is not linked internally with any of them, making the front entrance its only point of exit, a security manager at the building told Reuters.

"There is no other exit. He is going to have to come out of the main entrance," said the manager, who asked not to be named. "There is no way to bring a vehicle in because the car park is private and it is not connected in any way to their premises."

He added: "He can climb out of a window, of course, but there are CCTV cameras everywhere."

http://news.yahoo.com/julian-assanges-great-escape-203048968.html

 

[arknor]

hopefully he dies in their what a bloody attention whore

 

[Westyfield2]

I'd bet you money that he's gonna come out in a diplomatic bag.

 

[Johnnytoxic]

hopefully he dies in their what a bloody attention whore

Even if you really dislike someone, you have to be a little tapped to say things like this?

 

[daz]

I'd bet you money that he's gonna come out in a diplomatic bag.

He's not a diplomatic document.

Ecuador will have to make him an Ecuadorial citizen and a diplomat for them to get him out.

 

[arknor]

Even if you really dislike someone, you have to be a little tapped to say things like this?

hes been dragging this crap out for to long already...

he needs to learn theres some crimes you cant settle out of court with a fat paycheck

 

[mattyfez]

id still like to know why the swedes refuse to question him in the uk. seems really odd especially as according to a guy on newsnight they where happy to travel to eastern europe to speak to a murder suspect.

This tbh. If there was enough evidence to charge him then fair enough, but for what is essentially a chat, why would he go? He knows full well the yanks will black bag him and ship him off for some water boarding given half a chance. It's not like they don't have a history of ignoring International law, and their own laws for that matter, whenever it suits them.

 

[Nexus]

I'd bet you money that he's gonna come out in a diplomatic bag.

I don't reckon its going to be that easy.

For one, they are saying that £50,000 a day in Policing or something silly is going to go on waiting for him to come out. So for one, he would have to wait a good while until they start to reduce the presence. Although they could try the diplomatic bag idea, the Police supposably have thermal cameras and such, so they know if he is being smuggled out in a car.

Even with the immunity that a diplomatic bag and car has, that car is going to be followed where ever it goes. The second he is released from it at a border or whatever, he would be arrested. He has no choice but to remain at the Embassy and while Ecuador have given him asylum, they aren't going to bend over backwards with crazy plans to help him get out the country.

I think his only real chance of escape is perhaps to start tunnelling into the basement, perhaps if he can get into the sewers, the Piccadilly Line isn't too far away!

 

[Chris [BEANS]]

This tbh. If there was enough evidence to charge him then fair enough, but for what is essentially a chat, why would he go? He knows full well the yanks will black bag him and ship him off for some water boarding given half a chance. It's not like they don't have a history of ignoring International law, and their own laws for that matter, whenever it suits them.

Do people ignore the full and rational reply to this question that's been posted previously because they can't argue with it and are hoping it will go away??

Or are they hoping for a different reply that they can argue with so we'll all forget about the rational response given??

 

[mattyfez]

Do people ignore the full and rational reply to this question that's been posted previously because they can't argue with it and are hoping it will go away??

Or are they hoping for a different reply that they can argue with so we'll all forget about the rational response given??

Which 'rational' reply are you referring to? Lol

 

[Castiel]

Really Castiel you can't type a simple yes or no?

I answered it with a yes/no answer...

Not from Sweden....the US-Swedish extradition treaty doesn't support extradition for any criminal offence that has a potentional for capital punishment, not to mention the little detail that the US Authorities have not actually made any charges against Julian Assange or more importantly that any charges relating to Espionage or National Security are not within the legal remit of the US-Swedish extradition treaty.

While we are making stuff up as we go along....you do realise that the US-Ecuador extradition treaty would allow Assange to be extradited to the US far easier than from any EU or affiliated nation...primarily because Assange technically was in receipt of valuable stolen US property....an extraditable offence in Ecuador.

I don't know what else you want me to say....if it is in reference to the US trying to extradite Assange from anywhere, then the first answer was sufficient because if they were going to so so then they would have done so through the US-UK treaty agreement.

If you are asking whether I think the US will charge him then I simply do not know. I would be more inclined to think that Mr Assange would have been rendered already or met with a rather unfortunate accident if all the bellyaching from his supporters is anything to go by.

 

[Xordium]

If you are asking whether I think the US will charge him then I simply do not know.

Fair enough that's all I was trying to determine! I wouldn't be shocked if he ended up on US soil I would if he ended up under US soil.

 

[Castiel]

Fair enough that's all I was trying to determine! I wouldn't be shocked if he ended up on US soil I would if he ended up under US soil.

I was looking for the grass-covered hole with the big sharpened stakes at the bottom it....

I don't think the US want anything to do with him.....he is the poisoned chalice as far as any political motivation to actually punish him for leaking documents is is concerned, the various senators and congressmen are probably happy to rant on about the evil wikileaks and the big bad Assange, but would balk at actually being associated with any charges or attempts to punish him. They have Bradley Manning, I suspect that is enough.

 

[StriderX]

I was looking for the grass-covered hole with the big sharpened stakes at the bottom it....

I don't think the US want anything to do with him.....he is the poisoned chalice as far as any political motivation to actually punish him for leaking documents is is concerned. They have Bradley Manning, I suspect that is enough.

I really doubt it is enough, probably enough for some CIA jockey to have his fun with him, but Manning seemed like he was alone, in the grand scheme of things.

 

[Xordium]

I was looking for the grass-covered hole with the big sharpened stakes at the bottom it....

I am really that bad ... on second thoughts don't answer that.

 

[Chris [BEANS]]

Which 'rational' reply are you referring to? Lol

This one, that's now been posted three times in two pages...

Why should they?

Can you imagine a suspected burglar demanding he isn't taken into custody bur rather interviewed in his own home? The accused doesn't get to demand where and when they can be questioned and it is arrogant to assume someone should have that power.

Besides, let's say they do come over, question him here and aren't satisfied with his answers, what then? Do you think asssange would happily go and face a trial in Sweden? No, then he'll want to be tried here, which would mean leaving the embassy which he won't do.

If the Swedish authorities were to meet Assange's demands, they would have to come here, interview him inside the embassy (with Ecuadorian officials looking on and threatening to throw the Swedish prosecuters out at any time) and then have no power to hold him to account if they aren't satisfied with his answers.

Interviewing him here doesn't solve the problem, it just shifts it to the next stage.

Confused on the relevance of "lol" so I can't respond to that bit I'm afraid.