Assange to go!

Actually people are dead as an indirect result of his actions. But this is still reason enough for me to have little to no sympathy for him. He should have known better.

I do however find the idea that our government would break international diplomatic procedures in order to capture him disgusting. As long as he is inside that embassy, he is on Ecuadorian soil. The UK Government has no business sending people in there to retrieve him.
 
ubersonic said:
Although im in his corner over extradition, it has to be pointed out that people are dead as a direct result of his actions, and its pretty hard to try and say he wouldn't have known that would happen.
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He is just a spokesman really at the moment though, yes he was a founder but he is not responsible for what wikileaks are doing.
He probably can't even shut it down if he wanted to.
 
Why would Sweden extradite him though and not us?

How come the allegation in Sweden started at the most convenient time for the US?
 
jsmoke said:
Why would Sweden extradite him though and not us?

How come the allegation in Sweden started at the most convenient time for the US?
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The allegation did not start, it occurred ages ago, decision was made not to persue it, then a more senior investigator has reopened his case and made the decision to proceed with a european arrest warrent.
 
Hikari Kisugi said:
The allegation did not start, it occurred ages ago, decision was made not to persue it, then a more senior investigator has reopened his case and made the decision to proceed with a european arrest warrent.
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Ah right, that makes sense. And i assume the women making the original allegations are happy to keep pursing them?
 
Well it appears that might not be the case, my most recent understanding was they were now failing to work with the authorities.

It appears one had suggest that during consenual sex he deliberately broke a condom.
The second had protected conseual sex and the next morning awoke to find him plugging her without a condom.
They wanted him tested for STDs and he said he was too busy, so they made their original complaint.

As for now what they want is unclear.
 
Xordium said:
Who has he killed to escape questioning by Swedish authorities? Have I missed something? Did he run across the rooftops shooting coppers as he pirouetted from building to building before bungee-jumping down clock tower into an awaiting speedboat with a scantly clad Ecuadorian secret agent inside to whisk him to safety?
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I dont think he's bond. I think HE thinks he's bond but thats another matter.

No I was referring to the 1300 dead Kenyans he admitted in an interview were directly attributable to wikileaks, but later changed his mind about of course. I was also referring to the Taleban attacks on Afghani Elders who had co-operated with the US. The Taleban did send a nice letter thanking Assange though, so at least they were polite. What about the Iranian Majid Fashi whose execution as a spy was as a direct result of being identified in the unredacted cables?

But then again, what about the Chinese dissidents, middle eastern journalists and basically anyone who has stuck their neck out for democracy we dont know about who quietly disappear or who flee their homes?

Were they worth it so that Assange could keep his name in the papers and then screw over anyone who trusted him so he could cower in the embassy of a country whose Human Rights record something tells me he wont be challenging anytime soon. Nothing like having a conscience you can tuck away when threatened with jail to mark him out as the champion of the peoples eh?
 
In that case it's probably just the Swedish authorities covering themselves as these allegations would have come out in the wash sooner or later. On the other hand Assange is a bit bold no, knowing that these allegations would come out at some time yet making himself so many enemies which he must have know he would do. What's his game? You can't exactly say he's a man or morality or has altruistic motives.
 
kwerk said:
I can't believe the pro-rape agenda of this thread.
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?? Erm..... Wut?

Sleepless said:
I dont think he's bond. I think HE thinks he's bond but thats another matter.

No I was referring to the 1300 dead Kenyans he admitted in an interview were directly attributable to wikileaks, but later changed his mind about of course. I was also referring to the Taleban attacks on Afghani Elders who had co-operated with the US. The Taleban did send a nice letter thanking Assange though, so at least they were polite. What about the Iranian Majid Fashi whose execution as a spy was as a direct result of being identified in the unredacted cables?

But then again, what about the Chinese dissidents, middle eastern journalists and basically anyone who has stuck their neck out for democracy we dont know about who quietly disappear or who flee their homes?

Were they worth it so that Assange could keep his name in the papers and then screw over anyone who trusted him so he could cower in the embassy of a country whose Human Rights record something tells me he wont be challenging anytime soon. Nothing like having a conscience you can tuck away when threatened with jail to mark him out as the champion of the peoples eh?
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Bravo!! Very nice post.

Edit: Any sources? I'm becoming more and more fascinated by this subject, and more and more convinced Mr Assange should be forced to face his questioners as he's clearly not grown up enough to do so of his own volition.
 
[TW]Fox;22579572 said:
Err because they are legally obliged to? They can't just decide not to bother.

The only reason why its likely this situation wouldnt exist with Joe Random is because Joe Random wouldn't have the option of suggesting its all a nasty conspiracy from the horrible USA and therefore a South American embassy would laugh and close the door. Therefore Joe Random wouldn't be able to attempt to escape allegations of sexual assault quite as easily..
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it's that simple, if he is innocent then the Swedish courts will clear him and he will be free to go

don't get all this support for him, just usual conspiracy theory loonies
 
id still like to know why the swedes refuse to question him in the uk. seems really odd especially as according to a guy on newsnight they where happy to travel to eastern europe to speak to a murder suspect.
 
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