Assassins Creed Shadows - AC finally (at last) heads to Japan

I'm in the minority here:) Based on the gameplay vids, I'm looking forward to this. Imo Assassins Creed should have been about Japan and ninjas from the get go, but better late than never.
 
Protagonist doesn't look very Japanese...

What's the point in setting it in Japan if you don't to get immerse in the culture. They just couldn't help themselves with the DEI nonsense.

Anything "sweet baby inc" touches seem to fail.
 
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Nasher said:
Protagonist doesn't look very Japanese...

What's the point in setting it in Japan if you don't to get immerse in the culture. They just couldn't help themselves with the DEI nonsense.

Anything "sweet baby inc" touches seem to fail.
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These people don't care who they step on to push their proclivities.

Disrespect an entire nations culture and history?

No problem.
 
Like when they had a collectible featuring a one legged Torii gate which resembled the one partially destroyed by the atom bomb at Nagasaki.
I mean just how ******* retarded can they get.
That was rhetorical btw, we know.
 
I'm sure this has been said somewhere in this thread already, but I'd rather just play Ghost of Tsushima again - essentially AC with the amount of assassination and stealth in there! Looking forward to the sequel in 2025 all being well :D
 
Nasher said:
Protagonist doesn't look very Japanese...

What's the point in setting it in Japan if you don't to get immerse in the culture. They just couldn't help themselves with the DEI nonsense.
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He does look very Japanese though ;)
From my earlier post:
The story of a black man in feudal Japan has roots in real history https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/who-was-yasuke-japans-first-black-samurai-180981416/ . To the extent that the Japanese created manga like Afro Samurai for their own domestic market, during the non-woke 1990s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro_Samurai
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Plus, AC:Shadows has another protagonist, who is Japanese.
Not to say that I expect the game to feel Japanese. But it's not because of "diversity and inclusion", but because it's not made in Japan. Just like Ghost of Tsushima never feels authentic, but Yakuza, Sekiro, Nioh do.
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I'm sure this has been said somewhere in this thread already, but I'd rather just play Ghost of Tsushima again - essentially AC with the amount of assassination and stealth in there! Looking forward to the sequel in 2025 all being well :D
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Ghost of Tsushima is a good game, but quite shallow. AC Shadows will be shallow too of course, but it be fresh shallow - new mechanics, etc.
 
Nasher said:
Protagonist doesn't look very Japanese...

What's the point in setting it in Japan if you don't to get immerse in the culture. They just couldn't help themselves with the DEI nonsense.

Anything "sweet baby inc" touches seem to fail.
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If you want to immerse yourself in the culture, I would probably suggest a trip to Japan rather than a computer game.
But of course you won't because then you can't have a moan about the boogeyman.
 
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Just to add, Nioh's main protagonist was "William Adams, an Irish sailor named after and inspired by the historic William Adams, an 1600s Englishman who became a samurai" I don't rememeber an uproar about DEI proclivities :).
Oh, and Afro samurai Yasuke was one of the bosses there- yes, in an actual Japanese game that was made in Japan:

PS I'm no fan of crazy wokeness - I still can't believe a convicted rapist in Scotland actually went to women's prison because he identified as a woman :cry:, but let's be reasonable.
 
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Ghost of Tsushima is a good game, but quite shallow. AC Shadows will be shallow too of course, but it be fresh shallow - new mechanics, etc.
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Very true. There are some cutscenes that I felt were so out of sync with the gameplay, but I enjoyed it all the same. I suppose though in Ghost of Tsushima you could up the immersion by having the voices in Japanese, English subtitles and then turn on the cinematic mode, but I found it didn't sit well with me so went boring and back to English / English so can't really complain that it didn't sit perfectly well.

I've read recently that you can turn off the narrative story in AC: Japan and essentially just roam and engage with the world. Interesting take.
 
Pushed back again, it's either going to be a huge flop or they've actually listened to feedback and been cooking to make it good after the last 12 months Ubisoft has had due to their own failures.
 
Borsch said:
Just to add, Nioh's main protagonist was "William Adams, an Irish sailor named after and inspired by the historic William Adams, an 1600s Englishman who became a samurai" I don't rememeber an uproar about DEI proclivities :).
Oh, and Afro samurai Yasuke was one of the bosses there- yes, in an actual Japanese game that was made in Japan:

PS I'm no fan of crazy wokeness - I still can't believe a convicted rapist in Scotland actually went to women's prison because he identified as a woman :cry:, but let's be reasonable.
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Most of the uproar wasn't because there's was a black samurai in the game, it was because they were trying to sell him as a real historical person by using the writings of a FRAUD to back it all up. Also, up until now, every protagonist has been representative of the setting. No one complained about Bayek of Siwa, for example.

They marketed Yasuke as "the first HISTORICAL protagonist" in the series, and that's an actual quote, which is a complete joke.

Why would there be an uproar about William Adams, an actual historical figure? The way the
Japanese perceive Yasuke and the way they perceive Adams couldn't be further apart.

The Afro samurai is a folk tale/legend and that's how Nioh creators went about it, unlike Ubisoft.


If the game's good, I'll definitely play it regardless of all of Ubi's nonsense but I understand why people were upset and I feel it's a bit more nuanced of an issue than just woke/anti-woke.

EDIT: Also, quite ironically, you've posted the exact Wikipedia page that has been heavily tampered with by said fraud, Thomas Lockley, who's behind the entire legendary growth of Yasuke and who has since been condemned by actual Japanese historians and the university cut all ties with him, just a heads-up:P Britannica/Smithsonian also relied on him as a "credible" source.
 
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Amatsubu said:
Most of the uproar wasn't because there's was a black samurai in the game, it was because they were trying to sell him as a real historical person by using the writings of a FRAUD to back it all up. Also, up until now, every protagonist has been representative of the setting. No one complained about Bayek of Siwa, for example.

They marketed Yasuke as "the first HISTORICAL protagonist" in the series, and that's an actual quote, which is a complete joke.

Why would there be an uproar about William Adams, an actual historical figure? The way the
Japanese perceive Yasuke and the way they perceive Adams couldn't be further apart.

The Afro samurai is a folk tale/legend and that's how Nioh creators went about it, unlike Ubisoft.


If the game's good, I'll definitely play it regardless of all of Ubi's nonsense but I understand why people were upset and I feel it's a bit more nuanced of an issue than just woke/anti-woke.

EDIT: Also, quite ironically, you've posted the exact Wikipedia page that has been heavily tampered with by said fraud, Thomas Lockley, who's behind the entire legendary growth of Yasuke and who has since been condemned by actual Japanese historians and the university cut all ties with him, just a heads-up:P Britannica/Smithsonian also relied on him as a "credible" source.
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Hey gave you got links to all this? This whole fraud thing sounds fascinating. I've got a book of Kuniyoshi woodblocks and I'm sure I've seen the black samurai in them. It would be cool to know the true story
 
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