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Poll: ASUS STRIX AMD VEGA 64, under £450, interested?

Would you buy ASUS STRIX VEGA 64 UNDER £450 with FREE GAMES?

  • HELL YES!

    Votes: 80 53.7%

  • NO CHANCE!

    Votes: 69 46.3%
  • Total voters
    149
Gibbo said:
True but in fairness our AMD reference card here boost at 1570MHz and generally holds that speed, which I believe is above their advertised boost clock.
The Asus is advertised at 1590Mhz which it does hit for a few seconds, after thirty minutes or so of gaming and benchmarks in a closed case the boost clock is hovering around 1400MHz to keep temperatures under control.

The main advantage of the Asus its one of the quietest we have ever tested.
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1570's an excellent result, was that a reference AIO though? None of mine have managed that out of the box and I've got good case ventilation with a C70 Vengeance. With tweaks and a voltage drop I can get that and if I really push the settings I can get the card to overclock to 1650-1660 but it never actually runs that high for long before setting down to around the Red Devils 1607 boost.

It'd be interesting to know if the Devil lacks anything under the hood if you ever get the chance. :)
 
Just in case anyone wanted to know.

Bought this card and it arrived about 2/3 weeks ago.

The pad between the VRMs is a lot beefier than the one posted earlier. Bright yellow and easily 2-3mm thick and covered all of the VRMs well.
 
muon said:
This may need to be cheaper. Same goes for the other nvidia offers here.
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We have rejected the offer based on the thermal testing.

If Asus agree to a much lower quantity say 100 or less then we may take some to sell at just under £450 to please those who are not so bothered about thermals.

Otherwise we need a better price so we can hit closer to £400 or just under if Asus can’t shift them somewhere else in the world.
 
@Gibbo, I'm surprised that AMD or their partners aren't pushing more deals because next week when the 2080/Ti benchmark results are released they'll be dominated by Nvidia cards. Add the 2070 coming soon into the mix and they won't look very attractive at all.
 
five8five said:
@Gibbo, I'm surprised that AMD or their partners aren't pushing more deals because next week when the 2080/Ti benchmark results are released they'll be dominated by Nvidia cards. Add the 2070 coming soon into the mix and they won't look very attractive at all.
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At this point, and rather ironically, I think the only thing that's offering some potential buoyancy to AMD GPU sales is Nvidia themselves, not only with their own GPU pricing, but the cost of G-Sync monitors. There are some very attractive Freesync options at far more attractive prices, and the price sensitive, value conscious consumers will continue to gobble up those sales for a while yet, regardless of how good the 20xx reviews are. G-Sync has totally priced itself out of reach of many gamers, and this is absolutely pushing people towards Freesync. There's only so far AMD can drop prices before it stops making economical sense, and as long as Nvidia are sky high with theirs, AMD will still make sales.
 
Legend said:
At this point, and rather ironically, I think the only thing that's offering some potential buoyancy to AMD GPU sales is Nvidia themselves, not only with their own GPU pricing, but the cost of G-Sync monitors. There are some very attractive Freesync options at far more attractive prices, and the price sensitive, value conscious consumers will continue to gobble up those sales for a while yet, regardless of how good the 20xx reviews are. G-Sync has totally priced itself out of reach of many gamers, and this is absolutely pushing people towards Freesync. There's only so far AMD can drop prices before it stops making economical sense, and as long as Nvidia are sky high with theirs, AMD will still make sales.
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Or deals with a card and monitor?

There are some nice high refresh rate 4k and UW monitors being released but you really need something like a 1080ti to power them. When will AMD release a faster as the VEGA is starting. to look a bit long in the tooth?
 
five8five said:
Or deals with a card and monitor?

There are some nice high refresh rate 4k and UW monitors being released but you really need something like a 1080ti to power them. When will AMD release a faster as the VEGA is starting. to look a bit long in the tooth?
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That is indeed the frustration... AMD are just SO far behind that it does lessen the appeal somewhat of the higher end Freesync monitors which you won't be able to push to their max capability. The 2080/2080Ti however are going to smash ultrawide and 4K. Both one of those and a G-Sync monitor to match are simply going to be out of reach for many gamers though sadly.
 
2080Ti and a high end G-Sync monitor is the best part of £2,000, rules out 99.5% of all gamers.

Vega64 and high end Freesync monitor is less than £1,000 (which is still a LOT for the normal gamer) but still would be in reach to perhaps 20% of all gamers.
 
Gibbo said:
We have rejected the offer based on the thermal testing.

If Asus agree to a much lower quantity say 100 or less then we may take some to sell at just under £450 to please those who are not so bothered about thermals.

Otherwise we need a better price so we can hit closer to £400 or just under if Asus can’t shift them somewhere else in the world.
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Probably a good choice if you were hoping to sell to people that normally shop around heavily.

It depends really where the 1080 pricing lands at over the next 2 months. I know you've said you don't think it will go below £450, but I don't think you believe you know the future with complete certainty.
 
muon said:
Probably a good choice if you were hoping to sell to people that normally shop around heavily.

It depends really where the 1080 pricing lands at over the next 2 months. I know you've said you don't think it will go below £450, but I don't think you believe you know the future with complete certainty.
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Look, Nvidia doesn't have to cut prices. Look at the other discussion. Some people in this very forum believe that the GTX1070 is faster than the Vega 64, and facts are completely irrelevant to them.
Then when they do not like the facts they move to power consumption. You point the facts there also, and move the discussion again.

Completely chicken and egg situation for here, and for AMD apparently these days.

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@Legend have you seen the crocodile tears in relation to the LG 34 950G and 950F?
Some Gsync users even demand from LG to put the expensive module on that monitor because with the normal module not only is more expensive than the Freesync version but sub par also.....
 
Panos said:
Look, Nvidia doesn't have to cut prices. Look at the other discussion. Some people in this very forum believe that the GTX1070 is faster than the Vega 64, and facts are completely irrelevant to them.
Then when they do not like the facts they move to power consumption. You point the facts there also, and move the discussion again.

Completely chicken and egg situation for here, and for AMD apparently these days.
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AMD could get ahead of the curve and just price them at sub £450. That's the kind of price they would have been happy to sell top tier older generation cards for.

1080 looks like settling at £400-£450 and and 1080Ti at £550-£600. Perhaps marginally more for the best cooling cards.

If Vega64 wants to sell in volumes to gamers then that is the competition. Freesync is cheaper which helps and the gaming pack included has some value, but that is the reality.
 
muon said:
AMD could get ahead of the curve and just price them at sub £450. That's the kind of price they would have been happy to sell top tier older generation cards for.

1080 looks like settling at £400-£450 and and 1080Ti at £550-£600. Perhaps marginally more for the best cooling cards.

If Vega64 wants to sell in volumes to gamers then that is the competition. Freesync is cheaper which helps and the gaming pack included has some value, but that is the reality.
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Look the HBM used on Vega alone costs £260. Cannot sell it for less.
I believe what ever stock is left is going or went, and if no replacement if found for Vega, we might see not a single card for sale after a month or so.
 
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