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They should be fine. I have used the Thermalright coolers that almost have the same dimensions etc with no issues apart from that they are not great to transport with those wire clip things for the fan but none of those type are.
ASUS Z10PE-D8 WS
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Not had a play with this board yet. I really hope it doesn't have the same problems that I have been experiencing with the X99-E WS....
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It's been rock solid. Rendering maxed out for the last week.
I really aught to get a UPS - as it's all 1 calculation. I can't find any quiet ones though.
What kind of issues did you have with the X99-E WS ?
I really aught to get a UPS - as it's all 1 calculation. I can't find any quiet ones though.
What kind of issues did you have with the X99-E WS ?
I just let the bios deal with things, - there are various options there. All fan headers are pwm and can be controlled.
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I have a feeling that this sample X99-E WS is faulty. Not had a great deal of response from Asus either. They have apparently set up a system with similar spec and they are not having the same issues. Basically the fans are running flat out regardless of the profile they are set to. I have also checked and if you set it to DC fan and then change the fan profile it just constantly gets 12v so full blast.
I have 20 retail boards arriving shortly so hopefully it will be sorted.
I have 20 retail boards arriving shortly so hopefully it will be sorted.
What Xeon CPU's are you using in this setup..
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Still can't find any propper reviews out yet.
TTL OC3D has a teaser.
He clearly knows something I didn't and is using regular ram for dual cpu's which I didn't think would work. . Maybe it does however and 64gb is the limit ? - those dominators sure do look badass though
TTL OC3D has a teaser.
He clearly knows something I didn't and is using regular ram for dual cpu's which I didn't think would work. . Maybe it does however and 64gb is the limit ? - those dominators sure do look badass though
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Do the Dominators actually work in the board, be upset if they do when I bought server stuff !
I've not had the time to build mine yet as very busy and short time at home before I had to go offshore again. Maybe in Jan I'll get round to it.
I've not had the time to build mine yet as very busy and short time at home before I had to go offshore again. Maybe in Jan I'll get round to it.
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From all my previous experience with such things, they wont work.
Only back in the P4 xeon days could you get away running non ECC with SMP.
I'd expect 1 cpu may run with the ram, with a max limit of 64gb. same as the X99-WS boards. Greater amounts of ram or SMP will require ECC, that I believe is a restriction set by intel hardwired into the CPU's.
There are 3rd party ram sinks available (don't look as nice). I'm sure some wise guy will mount the dominator sinks onto ECC. A warning if you try, they are glued onto the dominator ram, quite a few peeps have ripped the chips off the PCB trying to remove them
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That said the qvl for ram is very limited, the previous generation motherboards were very finickety, usually minor updates to the bios are required to sort stability for compatibility etc, which won't happen for consumer class ram. Of course luck comes into play.
Only back in the P4 xeon days could you get away running non ECC with SMP.
I'd expect 1 cpu may run with the ram, with a max limit of 64gb. same as the X99-WS boards. Greater amounts of ram or SMP will require ECC, that I believe is a restriction set by intel hardwired into the CPU's.
There are 3rd party ram sinks available (don't look as nice). I'm sure some wise guy will mount the dominator sinks onto ECC. A warning if you try, they are glued onto the dominator ram, quite a few peeps have ripped the chips off the PCB trying to remove them
.That said the qvl for ram is very limited, the previous generation motherboards were very finickety, usually minor updates to the bios are required to sort stability for compatibility etc, which won't happen for consumer class ram. Of course luck comes into play.
I only opened the box yesterday, guess what I find? CPU 1 socket protective cover is loose inside the bag and somehow damaged about 4-5 pins !! Gutted, but already managed to get the place I bought it to take it back thankfully.
Associate
that's a shame!!
have you got a new build log planned for when you do get a working one?
really enjoyed your last one
Finally getting round to a test stage almost ! Will hook up to a psu tomorrow, oh I mean today its 2am !
Mounted on my old CM Stacker removable MB Tray. Sella blocks are small on the cpus, hope its sufficient and I was rather annoyed at no mounting instruction in either box. It ain't rocket science of course....
Sorry for the crappy image its from my point n shoot TZ7.
Mounted on my old CM Stacker removable MB Tray. Sella blocks are small on the cpus, hope its sufficient and I was rather annoyed at no mounting instruction in either box. It ain't rocket science of course....
Sorry for the crappy image its from my point n shoot TZ7.
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New build
I hope this post helps folks with GPT, UEFI, M2 drives, sata express, multi sockets, Sata raid, VM, Cuda, and some gaming...
Time for a new build
Expect sexy hardware, new record benchies, some crying, some laughing, some sobbing etc
…and the customary pound of flesh.
Time for a new build
Expect sexy hardware, new record benchies, some crying, some laughing, some sobbing etc
…and the customary pound of flesh.
New Asus Z10PE-D8 WD dual socket motherboard
2x Intel E5-2697 v3 processors (28 cores/ 56 HT, 2.6ghz/3.6ghz Turbo)
256GB Ecc RAM DDR4 2133mhz
1 Samsung XP941 pcie 4x drive 512 (boot drive)
2 Titan Z SC evga video cards (Quad SLI)
8 Samsung 850 1TB SSD in RAID 0
1 corsair aix1500 PSU
Case labs Mercury case
1 Asus pq321qe 4k monitor
On Windows 7 64 bit Ultimate (tweaked) and Hackintosh
Pics
This is my usb stick, 256GB with built in sata controller
I had it made custom, then after I got it, I modified it the rest of the way from a Corsair usb 3 drive
This will be in the display of the case window and is used for the instant recovery part/Macrium reflect
The Russian tube changes display characters and rate based on access and fullness, controlled by two microprocessors
Here you go
I like the Frank Herbert Dune look
and it will match the heat-sinks on the board
(Its the size of a nice fountain pen)
Here are some of the other build pics so far:
Started tweaking bios
There is a plethora of optimization menus in the bios
Here is just one example
I also started playing with just some low level minor tweaks and look at a jump in benchies:
Up around 4143 so far, my highest was 4179
This test has scores that are so inconsistent variations of 1-2% what the heck???
I did my first back up of a configured windows partition (that includes utilities and all my office files, all mail, all the windows os files)
Backup took about 3 minutes using Macrium
the reported speed is Read 10.4 Gb/s - Write 7.2 Gb/s
And here is a partial of the Aida64 snapshot of lite load temps, the room temp was 73.5 F'
Just tried the motherboard bios setting for auto tune
Result when measured in windows with Aida64
Compared to old stock clock of 99.98, mem clock 1064.9 and cpu clock rest 1101, 3143, turbo 3596
new optimized clock of 103.7, mem clock 1107.2and cpu clock rest 1183, 3197, turbo 3774
Side note, I only got turbo frequencies in Aida64 of 3362 up from base of 2.6ghz per the v3 e5-2697 so this occurs because I have Aida using all cores (56) so all cores can lift to 3362
To get the single core frequency for turbo I ran the doom3 built in benchmark (time demo demo 1 1)
Then the logging on Aida shows a turbo of 3774ghz - you have to provoke 2 cores to run at max turbo
So almost 3.8ghz isn't bad at all !!!!
So quite an interesting on bios auto tune. No stability issues, even did two extended back to back burn tests in Aida64
I'm really impressed with the Asus bios auto tune, seems stable and predictable.
It's the first dual cup board with an auto tune utility that I have owned. The z9 did not have one that was usable. The z10 seems rock stable on all it does, and we are still in the early bioses from the recen board release.
In addition, the board has a growing in bios list of turnings for specific applications as shown in the first picture.
Well, can't wait to get into some over-clocking experiments
So here are a few samples taken with my cell phone
Res is 3849x2160
All games run at over 100fps
All eye candy on
Physics max
Havoc at 6 thread minimum
mods and optimizations of course
Enjoy the pics
But please forgive the cheesy cell phone shots
Crysis 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoEpHFwRGYU
Doom3
Unreal Tournament 3
Wolfenstein 2009
Almost there on the tweaking:
with the Asus Z10PE-D8 WS bios I was able to configure full UEFI.
(make sure you installed the UEFI firmware/bios on yer video cards)
On boot the normal storage, raid, devices screens, summary screens and the like...are skipped!
within a few seconds on the monitor MS loading symbol and green wave bar, no logos, no 4 colour window etc.
Remember that to do this you can't use MBR, all your drives, especially the boot drive, must be GPT!
So from power to desktop cut down to feels like nuthin' on load time
UEFI !!!!
here is bios screen shot
Yes, in windows all devices are there, no errors
Now for the interesting:
When you go to uefi as in the storage network video PCI etc - all the normal boot pop up menus for raid etc disappear - which left me wondering for config if I'd have to go from time to time to disable efi to get to those menus
Well, surprisingly no:
All those device menus now newly appear in the bios settings!!
ALSO
after all settings are marked UEFI, you can disable the CSM menu completely!!!!
So cool, so clean!
Speaking of clean, I lowered my ram temps about 8'F with these ram heat spreaders, I took the time to find good heat datasets that also matched the Titans Z and SLI bridge in looks:
...OCD
TEMPS after several hours of mundane email, excel, surfing porn, etc
When not busy doing much the CPUs generally are are 2 to 5'F above ambient
I hope this post helps folks with GPT, UEFI, M2 drives, sata express, multi sockets, Sata raid, VM, Cuda, and some gaming...
Time for a new build
Expect sexy hardware, new record benchies, some crying, some laughing, some sobbing etc
…and the customary pound of flesh.
Time for a new build
Expect sexy hardware, new record benchies, some crying, some laughing, some sobbing etc
…and the customary pound of flesh.
New Asus Z10PE-D8 WD dual socket motherboard
2x Intel E5-2697 v3 processors (28 cores/ 56 HT, 2.6ghz/3.6ghz Turbo)
256GB Ecc RAM DDR4 2133mhz
1 Samsung XP941 pcie 4x drive 512 (boot drive)
2 Titan Z SC evga video cards (Quad SLI)
8 Samsung 850 1TB SSD in RAID 0
1 corsair aix1500 PSU
Case labs Mercury case
1 Asus pq321qe 4k monitor
On Windows 7 64 bit Ultimate (tweaked) and Hackintosh
Pics
This is my usb stick, 256GB with built in sata controller
I had it made custom, then after I got it, I modified it the rest of the way from a Corsair usb 3 drive
This will be in the display of the case window and is used for the instant recovery part/Macrium reflect
The Russian tube changes display characters and rate based on access and fullness, controlled by two microprocessors
Here you go
I like the Frank Herbert Dune look
and it will match the heat-sinks on the board
(Its the size of a nice fountain pen)
Here are some of the other build pics so far:
Started tweaking bios
There is a plethora of optimization menus in the bios
Here is just one example
I also started playing with just some low level minor tweaks and look at a jump in benchies:
Up around 4143 so far, my highest was 4179
This test has scores that are so inconsistent variations of 1-2% what the heck???
I did my first back up of a configured windows partition (that includes utilities and all my office files, all mail, all the windows os files)
Backup took about 3 minutes using Macrium
the reported speed is Read 10.4 Gb/s - Write 7.2 Gb/s
And here is a partial of the Aida64 snapshot of lite load temps, the room temp was 73.5 F'
Just tried the motherboard bios setting for auto tune
Result when measured in windows with Aida64
Compared to old stock clock of 99.98, mem clock 1064.9 and cpu clock rest 1101, 3143, turbo 3596
new optimized clock of 103.7, mem clock 1107.2and cpu clock rest 1183, 3197, turbo 3774
Side note, I only got turbo frequencies in Aida64 of 3362 up from base of 2.6ghz per the v3 e5-2697 so this occurs because I have Aida using all cores (56) so all cores can lift to 3362
To get the single core frequency for turbo I ran the doom3 built in benchmark (time demo demo 1 1)
Then the logging on Aida shows a turbo of 3774ghz - you have to provoke 2 cores to run at max turbo
So almost 3.8ghz isn't bad at all !!!!
So quite an interesting on bios auto tune. No stability issues, even did two extended back to back burn tests in Aida64
I'm really impressed with the Asus bios auto tune, seems stable and predictable.
It's the first dual cup board with an auto tune utility that I have owned. The z9 did not have one that was usable. The z10 seems rock stable on all it does, and we are still in the early bioses from the recen board release.
In addition, the board has a growing in bios list of turnings for specific applications as shown in the first picture.
Well, can't wait to get into some over-clocking experiments
So here are a few samples taken with my cell phone
Res is 3849x2160
All games run at over 100fps
All eye candy on
Physics max
Havoc at 6 thread minimum
mods and optimizations of course
Enjoy the pics
But please forgive the cheesy cell phone shots
Crysis 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoEpHFwRGYU
Doom3
Unreal Tournament 3
Wolfenstein 2009
Almost there on the tweaking:
with the Asus Z10PE-D8 WS bios I was able to configure full UEFI.
(make sure you installed the UEFI firmware/bios on yer video cards)
On boot the normal storage, raid, devices screens, summary screens and the like...are skipped!
within a few seconds on the monitor MS loading symbol and green wave bar, no logos, no 4 colour window etc.
Remember that to do this you can't use MBR, all your drives, especially the boot drive, must be GPT!
So from power to desktop cut down to feels like nuthin' on load time
UEFI !!!!
here is bios screen shot
Yes, in windows all devices are there, no errors
Now for the interesting:
When you go to uefi as in the storage network video PCI etc - all the normal boot pop up menus for raid etc disappear - which left me wondering for config if I'd have to go from time to time to disable efi to get to those menus
Well, surprisingly no:
All those device menus now newly appear in the bios settings!!
ALSO
after all settings are marked UEFI, you can disable the CSM menu completely!!!!
So cool, so clean!
Speaking of clean, I lowered my ram temps about 8'F with these ram heat spreaders, I took the time to find good heat datasets that also matched the Titans Z and SLI bridge in looks:
...OCD
TEMPS after several hours of mundane email, excel, surfing porn, etc
When not busy doing much the CPUs generally are are 2 to 5'F above ambient
Nice spec there. im having issue with mine it wont post getting error 61 no display at all. tried doing offline bios update and still nothing. I believe its a ram issue, any ideas guys?
I have 4 sticks of this CT8G4DFD8213 - 8GB Crucial (1x8GB) Single Channel DDR4 2133, 15.0, 1.2v
Populating Slots A1 B1 + E1 F1
I have 4 sticks of this CT8G4DFD8213 - 8GB Crucial (1x8GB) Single Channel DDR4 2133, 15.0, 1.2v
Populating Slots A1 B1 + E1 F1
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Nice to see you almost have your system up and running Colin.Venturi - nice post and thankyou for all of the info.
Interesting about the EUFI bios settings, I really haven't played with any of them except the autotune, which worked amazingly.
256GB RAM !
- which brand? I was struggling to find 32gb dimms, I dare ask how much. When I looked I could have bought a wife, house and car for the same money.Good to see it is being used to it's full potential, those excel spreadsheets and multiple tabbed browsers can bring the best supercomputer to it's knees
I've tried all I can think of to try getting mine to post, one cpu one stick of ram and combinations using both cpu's that I have and no luck. Awaiting to hear from Asus, my ram isn't in the QVL so might buy one stick of the Samsung stuff to try it.
I've tried flashing to latest BIOS but it blinks for a few secs then the BIOS led stays blue, it never goes off again and according to the manual it should.
I hoping the engineering sample cpus I bought aren't duff, can I test them in my x79 Deluxe ?
I've tried flashing to latest BIOS but it blinks for a few secs then the BIOS led stays blue, it never goes off again and according to the manual it should.
I hoping the engineering sample cpus I bought aren't duff, can I test them in my x79 Deluxe ?
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Eek your not having much luck Colin.
I have no doubt that your ram is the issue you need ECC for SMP, and also you'l need a pair at least for 2 cpu's. 1 stick probably won't work either. (I haven't tested that however from all past experience). As stated above - I'd be very suprsed if regular ram would work. The QVL is a bit sucky, as the crucial ram I have isnt listed, however the chips used (Crucial use micron chips) are listed. Anyways ECC registerd is what you need.
What colour are the LED's next to the CPU's ?
I too couldn't boot up initially which had me panicd. I don't recall the error codes though.
I did need a bios update to resolve that, which also had me head scratching for a bit. Only 1 special usb slot works for this process and ensure the filename is correct when saved to the usb stick. If I recall it did take a lot longer than I expected to flash, I almost gave up and rebooted mid way thinking it wasn't working (DON'T). Use a low capacity drive with FAT32
I have no doubt that your ram is the issue you need ECC for SMP, and also you'l need a pair at least for 2 cpu's. 1 stick probably won't work either. (I haven't tested that however from all past experience). As stated above - I'd be very suprsed if regular ram would work. The QVL is a bit sucky, as the crucial ram I have isnt listed, however the chips used (Crucial use micron chips) are listed. Anyways ECC registerd is what you need.
What colour are the LED's next to the CPU's ?
I too couldn't boot up initially which had me panicd. I don't recall the error codes though.
I did need a bios update to resolve that, which also had me head scratching for a bit. Only 1 special usb slot works for this process and ensure the filename is correct when saved to the usb stick. If I recall it did take a lot longer than I expected to flash, I almost gave up and rebooted mid way thinking it wasn't working (DON'T). Use a low capacity drive with FAT32
Colin,
stupid question on my behalf, but you did move the onboard video jumper right?
If I zoom into the pick you provided it looks like the vga sw 1 jumper is in the default position which is on board video, you want to move that jumper over right?
stupid question on my behalf, but you did move the onboard video jumper right?
If I zoom into the pick you provided it looks like the vga sw 1 jumper is in the default position which is on board video, you want to move that jumper over right?
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Not stupid at all, I completely missed that, have changed it over no but still no display.
I then realised my bios file was wrong name, so renamed it as per manual instructions and it looks like it went through the bios flashing fully this time.
Now however it won't even boot when i press the power on button (onboard) The power led is lit red but nothing else. Normally when it booted previously I have green led for reset button and led bottom right side of board.
I have held the bios flash button in again and when i do the lights i mentioned above all come on while I'm holding it on. It no longer flashes the bios (flashing blue) anymore.