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At what age should sex education be taught?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by BowdonUK, Jun 5, 2019.

  1. ahar

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    This.

    As well as having kids at school I'm a governor at a school nearby - not sure the precise details of the curriculum at the schools in the news, but the one my kids have and at the other school is pretty good. Starts simple at reception (my son's class has a girl with two dads for example, so they talk about family units) and then by year 6 (kids are age 10-11) they are getting in to puberty, a bit about relationships, the mechanics of sex and starting to point out some of the complexities of gender. Seems very sensible to me.
     
  2. VincentHanna

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    It's another 3 year old!
     
  3. FoxEye

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    Curious as to what this means in your curriculum.
     
  4. Cleisthenes

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    Exactly this.

    Are you being obtuse or actually not sure? Educating children as to how people identify as different genders. They need to be educated about this or we end up with a whole new generation who are bigoted.
     
  5. FoxEye

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    Actually not sure. What are the complexities of gender? How should children identify as different genders?

    What different genders should they identify as?
     
  6. Cleisthenes

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    It isn't to teach them to be different genders, it's it make them away that in the world there are more genders than sexes. Whether or not you accept those non-cisgender genders is besides the point. It's education, they aren't tell them to be a certain way.

    If a person decides that they don't feel they can assign themselves to a particular gender, then let them be non-binary, this is the case for every gender out there. Does it affect how you live your life?
     
  7. Dis86

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    You're highlighting something I've said on here several times. Some people seem to go full retard and act like animals when it comes to their children. It's really odd. You can have someone who is otherwise a seemingly intelligent, rational person and it just goes to pot. Punch them! Smack them!

    Just for the sake of it I'll use an example I've posted previously:

    I'd had kids cause damage to my property. I'd seen them doing it, went out and asked them what the **** they thought they were doing? One burst in to tears. Couple of hours later his dad comes round and starts having a go at me. No apologies for the damage his kids have caused etc, just starts making threats of violence for upsetting his kid. Claims I should have told him about it first and he would have dealt with it.
    Pointed out to the idiot that I didn't know who he was, where he lived or which kids were his so how exactly was I supposed to do that? That took a while to sink in. He then kindly explained whilst continuing to make threats. I pointed out at this point that I now know where he lives, who his kids are and yet he's coming to my door and making threats? He didn't really think that one through did he?
    I relayed this story to the friend in question who said if someone told his kids off he'd punch them. I asked what he'd do if he caught kids causing damage to his property, his answer? Tell them off.

    Like I said, full retard.
     
  8. VincentHanna

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    It does seem like Some parents treat their kids, like Gollum treats the one ring.

    "MY PRECIOUS!!!"
     
  9. BowdonUK

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    I don't understand why kids need to be taught about relationships at 3 or 4 years old.

    I can understand later on, maybe 8 or 9, and then in secondary school about sex education.

    I've had no education about relationships and only had a couple of sex education lessons at secondary in my school era.

    If feels like the part about different family setups being taught at such a young age, when the kid is likely now to become confused and insecure, is brainwashing. There also seems to be an assumption that a lack of education about Billy has 2 dads means there will be a negative reaction. Why can't it just come up in conversation if somebody asks? Why does there need to be a whole lesson, weekly, devoted to it? I'm sure the time could be spent on other more practical things.
     
  10. Dis86

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    :D got a genuine lol out of me.
     
  11. FoxEye

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    So how does a child know they're transgender vs being a non-conformist, or being gay/bi?

    You call it education, but doesn't pushing this trans agenda simply result in people being corralled into thinking they need gender realignment surgery?

    There are kids as young as 4 years old in this country that have been sent to see specialists in gender realignment.

    I don't particularly like this rabbit hole - other people seem determined to see where it leads.

    How do you know you're non-binary btw? Because you're a guy who fancies guys? That's not new. Because you're a guy who likes picking flowers? That's not new.

    What's new is that if you're a guy who hasn't joined the rugby club you're probably a girl in a guy's body. You're non-binary. You're gender fluid.
     
  12. amigafan2003

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    Secondary school? There are girls in my daughters year who have already started thier periods (she's 8). So you've kind of missed the boat if you wait until secondary school.
     
  13. d_brennen

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    The schools are sending kids as young as 4 for gender realignment? Really? Shocking
     
  14. Dis86

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    Remember a girl of about that age starting in the middle of a lesson when I was at school. We didn't know what the hell was happening but more so nor did she. Poor girl was terrified.
     
  15. FoxEye

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    Nope. There was an example of a 4yo kid who was sent to see a specialist because they thought they were showing signs of being transgendered.

    I don't think there is any possibility of any medical intervention at that age. However they can use puberty blockers to prevent puberty in the "wrong" gender, I believe (later in life).

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...ic-accused-covering-negative-impacts-puberty/
     
  16. Caracus2k

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    Give him a bloody good talking to and ground him.

    Given that most girls/young women tend to have sex with older males theres a good chance that a 13 year old son will be commiting the criminal offence of rape if he's having sex with a female
     
  17. d_brennen

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    Thought not. Behind every crazy story you hear about gender reassignment among very young children, there are idiot adults.
     
  18. Ahleckz

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    And there in lies the issue. He’ll still have sex, you’ve just told a 13 year old boy not to do something; what do you think is going to happen? But instead of having it safely and being able to talk to someone he trusts it it goes wrong, or to talk about his feelings he now has to bottle them up.
    Not to mention he’s going to probably not use protection and likely end up doing it in a bush down the park. Which is far from ideal.

    People thinking their sons and daughters aren’t having sex are delusional. Is it not better for them whi will hve it, to do so in a safe way and have a responsible adult to talk to if needed?
     
  19. Caracus2k

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    I would have already had talks with a theoretical son by the age of 13 about sex.

    I rejected your notion that with a child aged 13 that parents should just throw there hands up at the prospect of them having sex and become complicit in potentially quite serious criminal activity.
     
  20. VincentHanna

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    What are you talking about?