Atari ST vs Amiga

Dr Who said:
Falcon 68030 little software, same as it was on the ST Scsi to support HDDs costing 2x as much as the PC

Yeah the hardware on the Falcon was good on paper, but other than a few demos and some professional midi software, it was to all intents and purposes an expensive doorstop, something which the Amiga was ultimately destined to become shortly after.
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Falcon had built in IDE as well...
 
Toffeeman said:
This is a very good comparison of Amiga custom chips Vs the St lack of hardware.

Shadow of the Beast:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5ic3Fy-tVY


The sound chip in the St was terrible. It was really a sound chip for 8 bit machines. People go on about the midi port way to much. All it did was allow it to communictae with extrenal musical instruments. How many users even used it ?! You could buy a midi port for the Amiga for about £20 anyway.

Amiga sound Vs St with Lotus 2. They are light years apart.

St - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs1gDpYJzew
Amiga - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kes7RQFnzk4
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No one has disputed that the A500 had superior hardware.

The problem with these commercial game comparisons is that the software houses couldn't be bothered to take the time to push the Atari for all it was worth.

Shadow of the Beast is a good example like you have posted...there is a well known demo floating around Youtube of how SOTB could have been on the ST.
 
Nanobot said:
Good thread. I had the A600, I think it came with some game based on Quavers and Lethal Weapon, and to think then the graphics were so good. Commodore C64 before that with the Datasette tape recorder! :eek:
Bubble Bobble and Ikari Warriors - now there's a good co-op...
PS Anyone remember Rob Hubbard tunes...
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Quavers game was Pushover, great game. "I'll get them woooooooo"
 
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i had rocket ranger on the Atari ST and the Amiga..i can tell you that the atari st version had the animation "missing" where you take off(remember running while you take off pressing the fire button each times as his foot hits the floor)but the amiga version had this scene in all its full glory and it was one of the reasons to own the game!

The atari was a good machine as a forerunner before the amiga came out,but here is a perfect example of the atari being inferior......if you think back now,there are not many good games on the atari that are also on the amiga...the amiga has loads of games that are out for it that are so much better than the st....the only game on the st which was as good is dungeon master and thats it,everything else was inferior,shame really as i liked my st...it certainly looked better than the amiga!

I did not know that the Atari version of beast was soooooo bad!
Sound makes a big difference in gaming,just as much as graphics.....:)

Remember without the ST we probably would have had no Amiga
 
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Didn't workbench ship with a soundclip of red dwarf? I'm pretty sure I found it as an example soundclip somewhere.

Kryton: "Sir they've taken Mr Rimmer"
Cat: "Quick let's get outta here before they bring him back!"
 
I remember finding that tool in workbench that would speak text you typed in. It sounded like stephen hawking's speech machine. I remember giving someone I knew a 'prank' phone call with it and managed to keep the conversation going for a couple of minutes :p
 
haha

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"And so on and so on and so on and so on"
 
I've been tempted on numerous occasions to buy an STe on the bay - purely for nostalgia. Do those of you who have done so (or bought an Amoeba if that's what you had in the past) regret having done so? I'm kinda worried that reliving my youth won't be as fulfilling as I'm hoping it will be, and that maybe I'll be better off just remembering how it was.
 
Did anyone else program their ST's and Migs? I remember using Fast Basic and GFA Basic on my ST, and later HiSoft Basic on the Mig. Those were the days.
 
I've still got my Amiga 500 in the attic. I played that thing constantly for about 3 years when I was a teenager.

Speedball 2, Gods, Sensible soccer and Monkey Island were the main culprits.
 
Right, I'm going to open retro gaming floodgates now by saying !joysticks!
I still have an unopened Competition Pro joystick from the Amiga days. Clear crystal plastic with red buttons and red stick. I think they were the popular ones everyone carried forward from the Commodore era, give or take a few Cheetah ones that always looked like something from a cockpit and always broke first... Always having to change the switches inside... I think it was excessive bashing from Hyper Sports swimming or 100m hurdles.
Ah those days... :D
 
Amiga was a lot more successful than any Atari, both games & hardware sales. By the time Atari had a decent spec machine (only 3 years too late:rolleyes:) the PC with VGA was the new top dog for gaming.

Atari ST had a 1 year headstart but wasted it away and allowed the Amiga to dominate as they had no answer to the superior Amiga hardware & games software taking advantage of this (the main reason people bought these back in the day). Atari's greed destroyed their hardware business as did Commodore eventually when they both declined to move with the times allowing the PC with VGA gfx & 16 bit consoles to dominate.
 
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