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muon said:
The reason given is around taking the baton outside of the zones. GB appeal rejected.

However, there doesn't appear to be video evidence of this.
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Thanks for the explanation. It's astonishing with all those cameras on the athletes and yet sometimes it still comes down to a judge's fleeting impression. If the cycling track events give anything to go by then where the video evidence is unclear then they shouldn't make a decision on it and the athletes should be allowed to continue.

marc2003 said:
To be fair, he could have retired after Berlin 2009 and still be the greatest ever. :p
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Maybe but I like that there's longevity involved and it completely removes any question of one of them being a fluke result - he has consistently and comprehensively proved that he's the greatest sprinter ever.
 
Thing is there is a camera guy looking right down the line in the video where the guys head is blocking the English guys feet, they should track that guy down though if he's Brazilian he won't be inclined to help.

Personally I think some of the rules are dumb, these should be guidelines more than anything. The guy who what was it the steeplechase or something got DQ'd because he put one foot out for one step when the guy inside basically nudged him anyway. What advantage does one foot out of the track one time have, none. If anything it effects his stride and slows him down. There is a huge difference between being shoved and stepping out which slows you down and attempting to cheat by cutting a corner.

While rules are good and cheating on purpose attempting to make a gain should be punished, extremely minor infractions of inches that have zero effect, DQ'ing for such things is against the spirit of the competition IMHO.

I mean people haven't been DQ'd for tripping people and ruining 4 years of hard work in a second, but you can DQ someone for one inch outside of a line that had no effect?
 
drunkenmaster said:
Thing is there is a camera guy looking right down the line in the video where the guys head is blocking the English guys feet, they should track that guy down though if he's Brazilian he won't be inclined to help.

Personally I think some of the rules are dumb, these should be guidelines more than anything. The guy who what was it the steeplechase or something got DQ'd because he put one foot out for one step when the guy inside basically nudged him anyway. What advantage does one foot out of the track one time have, none. If anything it effects his stride and slows him down. There is a huge difference between being shoved and stepping out which slows you down and attempting to cheat by cutting a corner.

While rules are good and cheating on purpose attempting to make a gain should be punished, extremely minor infractions of inches that have zero effect, DQ'ing for such things is against the spirit of the competition IMHO.

I mean people haven't been DQ'd for tripping people and ruining 4 years of hard work in a second, but you can DQ someone for one inch outside of a line that had no effect?
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Exactly. Apparently taking drugs is ok too, there's lots of athletes still allowed to compete despite having served bans in the past. Yet putting a toe over a line, or one step out of the track because you were avoiding a collision, is so terrible that it gets you DQ'd and wipes out 4 years of extremely hard work.

It doesn't help that there doesn't appear to be any video evidence to verify the relay ban. In which case they should be given the benefit of the doubt. But they won't be because GB being DQ'd has elevated Brazil. Funny that.
 
Coincidence or not, the decision is absolute BS because there's a lack of conclusive footage. Just seen the footage and there's no clear violation, at most it's a matter of millimetres and so it's just the word of one judge. There's cameras everywhere at the Olympics, even in places where they aren't necessary. So why no camera on the line? Same with the farce in the cycling Keirin (which worked to Kenny's advantage probably, but that doesn't make it right).
 
The word of one person is all it takes in a lot of sports before the use of hawk eye technology.

In the Keirin I don't think it was a person stopping the start.
 
muon said:
The word of one person is all it takes in a lot of sports before the use of hawk eye technology.

In the Keirin I don't think it was a person stopping the start.
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Yeah and a lot of sports were a LOT worse for controversial decisions before hawk eye and similar TV review technologies came along. There's a lot less controversy and arguments in Tennis, Cricket, Badminton, Rugby, you name it.

If Athletics can decide who wins medals on the basis of a photo finish, they should also be deciding who gets DQ'd in the same way wherever possible.

As for the Keirin, it must have been a person stopping it because the gun is fired to stop the race and there's no automated process for doing so. The Derny bike doesn't exit at the exact same place every time (which is part of the problem because the line is only there for guidance).
 
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