ATI cuts 6950 allocation

[Gibbo]

6800's are over priced.

Once the dust settles, how about:-
6850 = £120
6870 = £160
6950 = £220
6970 = £300
6990 = £460

HI there

Expect these price points by end of this week:-


GTX 460 768MB = £105 - £115
5830 1024MB = £115-£130 **EOL** ***Practically 5850 performance - BARGAIN***
6850 1024MB = £130-£140
GTX 460 1024MB = £140-£160
5850 1024MB = £130-£150 **EOL** ***Stock None Existent***
6870 1024MB = £170-£190
5870 1024MB = £180-£200 **EOL** ***Nothing sub £200 beats this***
GTX 470 1280MB = £190-£220 **EOL**
6950 2048MB = £220-£230
GTX 480 1536MB = £250-£270 **EOL**
GTX 570 1280MB = £250-£290
6970 2048MB = £285 - £320
GTX 580 1536MB = £350-£450 **Supply & Demand will keep this high**
6990 4096MB = £450-£500



Any card marked **EOL** expect them to be completely gone by end of January, which basically makes cards like the 5830, 5870 and GTX 480 absolute bargains now at their clearance prices, especially the 5870!

 

[linaaslt]

and i think if you won't need to screw with the voltages, this might attract some more customers, that got no idea how to OC, this will be simple, you just move something and you're getting performance increase. If it's true, this could be wise move from AMD. Just like intels codes for OC'ing

 

[MDPlatts]

HI there

Expect these price points by end of this week:-
...

Sweet, hope that includes 05:00am on Wednesday!!

 

[pratkal]

HI there

Expect these price points by end of this week:-


GTX 460 768MB = £105 - £115
5830 1024MB = £115-£130 **EOL** ***Practically 5850 performance - BARGAIN***
6850 1024MB = £130-£140
GTX 460 1024MB = £140-£160
5850 1024MB = £130-£150 **EOL** ***Stock None Existent***
6870 1024MB = £170-£190
5870 1024MB = £180-£200 **EOL** ***Nothing sub £200 beats this***
GTX 470 1280MB = £190-£220 **EOL**
6950 2048MB = £220-£230
GTX 480 1536MB = £250-£270 **EOL**
GTX 570 1280MB = £250-£290
6970 2048MB = £285 - £320
GTX 580 1536MB = £350-£450 **Supply & Demand will keep this high**
6990 4096MB = £450-£500

Judging by the price 6970 is either equal or very little slower then GTX 580 in few faster

 

[Broken Hope]

All the benchmarks you see are for the 190W TDP limited card, you can still adjust the card to 250W TDP (closer to the 580), what do you think it would do with the performance numbers?

 

[RavenXXX2]

^^ Yeah it's called overclocking, like the 580 can overclock as well.

 

[MDPlatts]

Judging by the price 6970 is either equal or very little slower then GTX 580 in few faster

I think you mean GTX 570 ?

 

[Broken Hope]

^^ Yeah it's called overclocking, like the 580 can overclock as well.

Yes but with these cards, say the core clock is 800MHz and you have the Powertune slider at default, the clocks will fluctuate between 800MHz and 650MHz as seen on the graph to maintain that TDP, if you raise the slider then the card will stay at 800MHz for longer if not all the time.

The current benchmarks we have seen so far the benchmarks we have seen have been with drivers that don't have that slider, meaning the clocks have been fluctuating from the max.

 

[MDPlatts]

Just went to download the latest 10.12's and I thought I'd try for the HD6800's - and got a web page for the 10.11's with a link to a hotfix 10.10e - with a note saying that 10.11 didnt support the 6800's and to use the 10.10e instead.

Tried a few minutes later and its now showing a "down for maintenance" page and this image...

Re-trying for HD5xxx series now shows the 10.12's.

 

[pratkal]

I think you mean GTX 570 ?

nah i did mean GTX 580

HD 6970 easily costlier then GTX 570 and cost a little less then GTX 580 while HD 6970 should be cheaper to make also Amd strategy from start is to sell product for VFM that make me believe it better be faster then GTX 570 and a little slower then GTX 580 ( in few benches faster )

btw in that line i did a typo i was saying " In few games maybe faster*"

 

[TaKeN]

Very tempted to get a 6970 to replace my 5770 Crossfire.

One card is currently down at the moment, awaiting some spare time to apply for an RMA.

 

[MichaelM]

From neliz

Very interesting as the 6950 is meant to be 800Mhz yet at default it bobs around nearer 700Mhz so the results we have seen are not at the correct frequency.
This would mean the results we have seen so far are basically from under-clocked cards.

Assuming the slides to be true and the 6970 to be missing about the same from the benchmarks there could be another 8% (at least) added to Ducati750SS and Harry97's benchmarks.

 

[RavenXXX2]

Yes but with these cards, say the core clock is 800MHz and you have the Powertune slider at default, the clocks will fluctuate between 800MHz and 650MHz as seen on the graph to maintain that TDP, if you raise the slider then the card will stay at 800MHz for longer if not all the time.

The current benchmarks we have seen so far the benchmarks we have seen have been with drivers that don't have that slider, meaning the clocks have been fluctuating from the max.

I think this would have to be enabled in the drivers first so current benchmarks are probably running at full clock speeds.

 

[MichaelM]

I think this would have to be enabled in the drivers first so current benchmarks are probably running at full clock speeds.

It may be possible that "default" means the bios default then it won't be at full clock speed. Assuming the slide to be true.
Nothing has been able to recognize the 580's power management effects as far as I know yet so it might not have shown on the GPU-Z output for the 6970 either.

 

[Broken Hope]

I think this would have to be enabled in the drivers first so current benchmarks are probably running at full clock speeds.

Doubt it, AMD don't enable overdrive type stuff by default.

Not to mention the only drivers we've seen used with the 6900 series are a version of the 10.11s

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

The HD6970 PCB looks quite clean:

http://www.techpowerup.com/136313/AMD-Cayman-Taken-Apart-PCB-Pictured.html

 

[Broken Hope]

So with the powertune graph and this slide we've already seen.

The cards dynamically underclock themselves to maintain their TDP, the clockspeeds of the cards are basically the maximum the cards can reach if you set the powertune slider to maximum.

 

[JediFragger]

Well if Antilies is 2 full-on 6970 chips then it's looking like the one for me for a possible £425/£430ish in the New Year

 

[WingZero30]

So with the powertune graph and this slide we've already seen.

The cards dynamically underclock themselves to maintain their TDP, the clockspeeds of the cards are basically the maximum the cards can reach if you set the powertune slider to maximum.

So you reckon that all the current benchmarks we have seen have been done with underclocked 6900 series?

 

[Broken Hope]

So you reckon that all the current benchmarks we have seen have been done with underclocked 6900 series?

Pretty much, some of the numbers don't make sense.