ATI's equivalent to 3D Vision?

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anecdotal evidence

 

[Rroff]

I'm sorry for getting this thread out of the grave, but found pointless to start a new one for the same subject.

I own a 5850 (PCS+) and tbh the only few games I do play atm are BC2 and CIV 5.
Fallout New Vegas and Crysis 2, haven't made my mind yet to get them on PC or PS3 (and relax on the sofa )

Now, the iZ3D driver says it supports DX10, the TriDef only DX9 and both cost around £40 yes?

Now £40 is almost half way the cost of a GTX460. Which supports DX11 and I could place it on the second port of my P5Q Deluxe along side the 5850.
So I could use it as Physx when I use the 5850, or for 3D on it's own.
Or is better sell my 5850 and buy a GTX470? Maybe replace the motherboard to an SLI one and buy 2x460s? Any ideas are welcome.

I do have a 650 SLI motherboard, but I cannot clock the Q6600 over 3Ghz, while on the P5Q is working happily at 3.6. So I have to buy a new one.


As for a monitor there is some searching around but probably I will buy the Acer GD245.

By the looks of it you probably should have started a new thread :S lol.

I would say if you really want to do the 3D thing then sell the 5850 and get a GTX470 and overclock it, nVidias 3D Vision is the more supported, regularly updated and better tested of the offerings out there for gaming atm.

Or you could wait to see if anything worthwhile comes along with the 6 series but as I said before I wouldn't hold your breath for something as well supported as the nVidia offering.

 

[buttkinz]

I kinda found rroffs findings good, iv missed most of the other threads about it and am looking for information about it. Iv tried the iz3d drivers and they're awful lol, they don update the drivers quick enough for anything decent recently :/ ati sems to not give a damn, and I'm looking for a projector for the front room, only problem is I don't know if the 3d nvidia vision it supports will le me use the ps3? not looking likely and any other 3d standard is a mess at the moment Grrrr, rant over lol

 

[iviv]

but must he keep saying the same things

i·ro·ny
–noun, plural -nies.
1.
the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning: the irony of her reply, “How nice!” when I said I had to work all weekend.

 

[Panos]

By the looks of it you probably should have started a new thread :S lol.

I would say if you really want to do the 3D thing then sell the 5850 and get a GTX470 and overclock it, nVidias 3D Vision is the more supported, regularly updated and better tested of the offerings out there for gaming atm.

Or you could wait to see if anything worthwhile comes along with the 6 series but as I said before I wouldn't hold your breath for something as well supported as the nVidia offering.

Thank you Rroff. I appreciate your advice. I don't want to sell at loss my 5850PCS+ because I love it, however is seems that it has to come that way if I cannot find someone to trade it with a GTX470.

The ATI 6000 series, still require to have a 3rd party driver. Ain't worth tbh. I will probably get the cheaper Viewsonic than the expensive Acer 3d Monitor to avg the loses & total costs.
I will still have 2 monitors to do work on VS and MRDS, and a 3d to play at 1680x1080 or 1080p to play on 2d.

 

[Marvin]

From my own experience - and from letting other people use my 3D Vision kit as I don't use it that much myself - I found overwhelmingly most people think its very cool but impractical for day to day use - and most of them have been glad they borrowed it to find that out rather than spending £300 odd on something they end up not really using much.

I think I'd have to agree.

I love the 3D effect and such, I have the 3D Vision kit, a 2233RZ and a GTX480, but I haven't used it in 1.5-2 months...

For general use, it's just not something worth using. If it's a 3D-Vision-Ready game then it's better, though I still found BC2 had issues (the cross-hairs on proper sniper scopes appeared twice).

I think for 3D-Vision-Ready games I will carry on, but if it's online, or demanding, or has slight problems then it'll be sitting unused. Everyone who's tried it (took them through a MW2 mission, Flatout, Burnout, Heaven etc) thinks it looks amazing and rightly so, but there's something missing. Worth trying though...

 

[Snooble]

My GTX470 @ 800MHz is perfectly smooth in 3D Vision at 1680x1050 on the Samsung 2233rz. You can generally reduce the amount of AA used as well in 3D Vision compared to normal 3D which helps performance.

This is so vague. Yet so confident;

Perfectly smooth?

I have that monitor, play at that res, with a 8800gtx. And I can tell you that whilst I can play BFBC2 fine without AA, it's not "perfectly smooth". Ontheotherhand, I can play Trine/Rocket Knight/HL2/CS:S/C&C pretty smooth at around 50-60fps. It's really game dependant.

Reducing AA is one of the many ways you can increase your framerate on a game :s. Just go by the rules that you'll require 40-50% more GPU grunt (tfs) to run a game in 3d than the recommended GPU info on the box and you'll find yourself pleasantly suprised playing some games and others will require that extra power.

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[kitch9]

A 470 will fly through games at that res, an 8800 not so much.

 

[Tute]

Strange thread is strange. Is Rroff really getting heat for not liking an nVidia product?

As for 3D, well the films at the cinema give me massive headaches so I can safely say I won't be bothering with any incarnation of it. I even tried Crysis 2 in 3D at Eurogamer at the weekend and I had to get up and leave after about three minutes. So it's not fixed itself.

 

[Rroff]

This is so vague. Yet so confident;

Perfectly smooth?

I have that monitor, play at that res, with a 8800gtx. And I can tell you that whilst I can play BFBC2 fine without AA, it's not "perfectly smooth". Ontheotherhand, I can play Trine/Rocket Knight/HL2/CS:S/C&C pretty smooth at around 50-60fps. It's really game dependant.

Reducing AA is one of the many ways you can increase your framerate on a game :s. Just go by the rules that you'll require 40-50% more GPU grunt (tfs) to run a game in 3d than the recommended GPU info on the box and you'll find yourself pleasantly suprised playing some games and others will require that extra power.

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By perfectly smooth I mean I've played through a bunch of games at max settings (bar some effects that don't work with 3D Vision) and never noticed slowdowns or any GPU lag at any point.