Attention emo's

SideWinder · 7 Jun 2006 at 13:36

Balddog said:
Why dont you want to name yourself? Its perfectly normal to do so..

Im thinking more of the fans than the bands..

The stereotype comes from the lyrics...Very depressing and dark and often some self destructive stuff..thats where its from..

Most emos are skinny as hell and its accentuated by the tight as hell trousers and shirts..the long fringes contribute to the image of being a pushover..covering the face, it seems like theyre covering up..

Why do you dislike it? Its accurate...MOST, not all...Most emos are wimpy kids with low self confidence...If you are actually an emo, are you invoved in the scene? If so, you must have seen this...

Okay, what do you label yourself as?

Correct, i agree with that but it depends on the band.

I have only seen a handful of 'larger built' emos. The majority of them are goths instead with baggy jeans and band hoodies plastered with make-up. Would you say that the majority of chavs have short hair so they're not covering up? Understand where you're coming from. If i wore bright yellow suits, i would be full of confidence and want to stand out?

I dislike it because the emo arguement is on going, remember the previous emo thread? Didn't that last 15+ pages? I don't like the way people judge emos, assume they sit in their rooms and cut themselves, don't smile and are generally depressed. Yes i don't dispute that might be the case for some but not for all. The 'scene'? Sure i go to music gigs of this genre and yes i have a few emo friends. I guess this means i'm in with 'the scene'...?

Le_Petit_Lapin · 7 Jun 2006 at 13:36

Why do the male EMO's always seem to assume the same pose in photos?

That sort of head-facing the floor because the weight of the world is on their shoulders, skinny pale arms attached to limp wrists on hands weighed down my naail polish (shoved in trouser pockets to support them) hugging themselves probably because they have starved themselves (if you bought that much make-up you'd have no cash for food either) , and are shivering from nalnourishment, with that silly 80's flicky bit of hair drooping greasily over their face ...... kind of look?

Makes you look like a ****** to be honest.

SideWinder · 7 Jun 2006 at 13:38

lucasade1 said:
Just look at them though... "Ohhh look at me i'm wearing a shirt and tie". Is that meant to be making a statment?
If their so happy then how come not one of them is smiling?

Westlife don't smile either on this picture...they don't seem very happy.

SideWinder · 7 Jun 2006 at 13:42

Le_Petit_Lapin said:
Why do the male EMO's always seem to assume the same pose in photos?

Makes you look like a ****** to be honest.

Not all of them and that's your point of view.

Alexisonfire.

Luseac · 7 Jun 2006 at 13:43

SideWinder said:
Westlife don't smile either on this picture...they don't seem very happy.

All the westlife songs I have heard have been depressing. The typical my girlfriend has left me, I like I girl but can't get her etc.

Tobes · 7 Jun 2006 at 13:44

Ahhh Emos. I'm getting scared because I think I might be turning into one. I only say this cause I have long black hair and just started to listen to bands like MY Chemical Romance. I don't wear tight jeans and last time I cried was a good 8 months ago but I was in pain so it's allowed. lol.

However someone said that no emo girls are hot. I would post a picture of some but I don't think they would let me lol.

Also I noticed some people were getting emos and goths confused. Emos don't have the balls to cut themselves. Goths do.

theleg · 7 Jun 2006 at 13:44

SideWinder said:
Okay, what do you label yourself as?

Correct, i agree with that but it depends on the band.

I have only seen a handful of 'larger built' emos. The majority of them are goths instead with baggy jeans and band hoodies plastered with make-up. Would you say that the majority of chavs have short hair so they're not covering up? Understand where you're coming from. If i wore bright yellow suits, i would be full of confidence and want to stand out?

I dislike it because the emo arguement is on going, remember the previous emo thread? Didn't that last 15+ pages? I don't like the way people judge emos, assume they sit in their rooms and cut themselves, don't smile and are generally depressed. Yes i don't dispute that might be the case for some but not for all. The 'scene'? Sure i go to music gigs of this genre and yes i have a few emo friends. I guess this means i'm in with 'the scene'...?

What do I label myself as? Well im not in highschool so I label myself as a normal guy I guess...Music isnt a defining part of my life..I dont think there is a label for me...If I happened to fit emo characteristics, id be fine calling myself an emo...Call a spade a spade..

Chavs are chavs...One of their defining characteristics is their confidence to the point of aggression.emos, on the whole, are non confrontational..Which coupled with their weedy image, covered up faces and depressing tone contributes to their image..

I didnt take part in the last emo discussion so I cant really comment on that. Im not saying that ALL emos are like weve said, but a lot of them are and thats where the stereotype comes from...and you know that they try to portray that image..

SideWinder · 7 Jun 2006 at 13:47

lucasade1 said:
All the songs westlife songs I have heard have been depressing. The typical my girlfriend has left me, I like I girl but can't get her etc.

Maybe they were a bad example looking at their song titles.

If a band doesn't smile in an image, it doesn't mean they are depressive.

Luseac · 7 Jun 2006 at 13:49

I don't even know who they are so can't comment on their music...

However, I do understand the point you are trying to make

Tobes · 7 Jun 2006 at 13:49

SideWinder said:
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lol. The middle guy would be a good choice for clowd in Final fantasty advent children

Le_Petit_Lapin · 7 Jun 2006 at 13:49

SideWinder said:
Not all of them and that's your point of view.

Alexisonfire.

Ahh.....but I bet at some point every one of them has done an individual non-group photo, in the pose that I describe.

My question is "why"?

Is it some EMO right of passage or something?

SideWinder · 7 Jun 2006 at 13:51

Balddog said:
What do I label myself as? Well im not in highschool so I label myself as a normal guy I guess...Music isnt a defining part of my life..I dont think there is a label for me...If I happened to fit emo characteristics, id be fine calling myself an emo...Call a spade a spade..

Chavs are chavs...One of their defining characteristics is their confidence to the point of aggression.emos, on the whole, are non confrontational..Which coupled with their weedy image, covered up faces and depressing tone contributes to their image..

I didnt take part in the last emo discussion so I cant really comment on that. Im not saying that ALL emos are like weve said, but a lot of them are and thats where the stereotype comes from...and you know that they try to portray that image..

I'll ask the obvious, what IS normal?

Ask a chav if he or she reckons they are a chav. See what they say. I do see where you are coming from, don't get me wrong. There is a goth shop in Brighton, blasts heavy metal, a small door that leads into a black room filled with black clothing and chains. When i was a lot younger, i was too scared to go in there just to see what was in there. It diddn't help that there was a heavily pierced guy sitting outside dressed all in black leaning against the door smoking. I don't shop there but some of my friends do and when you get talking to the guys who own the shop, they really are great.

Tobes · 7 Jun 2006 at 13:51

lucasade1 said:
I don't even know who they are so can't comment on their music...

Scissor Sisters if you wanted to know

Luseac · 7 Jun 2006 at 13:53

Tob3z said:
Scissor Sisters if you wanted to know

oh right

SideWinder · 7 Jun 2006 at 13:54

Le_Petit_Lapin said:
Ahh.....but I bet at some point every one of them has done an individual non-group photo, in the pose that I describe.

My question is "why"?

Is it some EMO right of passage or something?

Feel free to look around their official picture website.

(Clicky)

As to why, to fit in maybe. As it has been established already, emo is a trend.

theleg · 7 Jun 2006 at 13:57

SideWinder said:
I'll ask the obvious, what IS normal?

Ask a chav if he or she reckons they are a chav. See what they say. I do see where you are coming from, don't get me wrong. There is a goth shop in Brighton, blasts heavy metal, a small door that leads into a black room filled with black clothing and chains. When i was a lot younger, i was too scared to go in there just to see what was in there. It diddn't help that there was a heavily pierced guy sitting outside dressed all in black leaning against the door smoking. I don't shop there but some of my friends do and when you get talking to the guys who own the shop, they really are great.

Normal is the, and you will have fits when you read this, the label that the majority of the population conform to..

Chav is a negative word....Emo and Goth are self styled labels..Its silly to compare them..

Not quite sure what the shop story means

SideWinder · 7 Jun 2006 at 14:01

Balddog said:
Normal is the, and you will have fits when you read this, the label that the majority of the population conform to..

Chav is a negative word....Emo and Goth are self styled labels..Its silly to compare them..

Not quite sure what the shop story means

/gasp.

People have different ideas what normal is, that's all. I mean, what happened to self expression? Yes people do dress how they want but people judge that person or group and accuse them of not being 'normal'. Emo is the prime case, same with goth.

Shop story. I was too afraid to go in because of what they looked like. They dressed all in black. Some had a lot of piercings and i felt intimidated.

theleg · 7 Jun 2006 at 14:11

SideWinder said:
/gasp.

People have different ideas what normal is, that's all. I mean, what happened to self expression? Yes people do dress how they want but people judge that person or group and accuse them of not being 'normal'. Emo is the prime case, same with goth.

Shop story. I was too afraid to go in because of what they looked like. They dressed all in black. Some had a lot of piercings and i felt intimidated.

It doesnt matter what people 'think' normal is...Normal is as normal does...Its what the majority is..Thats the very definition of the word...You cant go redefining the english lanuage ya know

Its you who seems to associate not being normal with bad...Not I...Just because I label someone as emo, doesnt NECESSARILY mean its a bad label...Usually it is

but other times its simply a statement of fact..Emo is after all, their own self created label.

Im not intimidated by emos or goths..

VIRII · 7 Jun 2006 at 14:18

SideWinder said:
Yes people do dress how they want but people judge that person or group and accuse them of not being 'normal'.

I can understand why people "judge" others on appearances. It is perfectly natural and human. It is an instinct. If you don't like it then that really is too bad. I'll bet that no matter how had you try that you do judge others all the time on appearance alone.
You'll do it because it is a natural survival instinct and you might not even be aware that you are doing it.

Pack animals instinctively pick out the weak, sick old and young because they are easier to hunt and to seperate from the herd. If you give off signals that you are weak and feeble then those who conform ot the pack animal mentality will pick on you. They ask why you aren't normal and accuse you of being wierd because that instinct has kicked in and the chances are that they don't really understand it.

It is human to go on instinct, it is human to judge, it is human to be cruel. Blaming people for conforming to type is no different to picking on people for being Emos. Then you get older and these things stop bothering you.

SideWinder · 7 Jun 2006 at 14:19

Balddog said:
It doesnt matter what people 'think' normal is...Normal is as normal does...Its what the majority is..Thats the very definition of the word...You cant go redefining the english lanuage ya know

Its you who seems to associate not being normal with bad...Not I...Just because I label someone as emo, doesnt NECESSARILY mean its a bad label...Usually it is but other times its simply a statement of fact..Emo is after all, their own self created label.

Im not intimidated by emos or goths..

Just saying people have different ideas of what 'normal' is. =/

I don't associate not being normal with bad but other people sometimes do. That's all. People can dress how they want in my eyes but that isn't acceptable to other people. Say i wore my jeans backwards to college, i would get laughed at for not fitting in as it isn't considered normal but i'd be doing it because i wanted to. Bad example i think.

Wasn't suggesting you were but i myself used to be intimidated based purely on what i had heard about goths and the way they looked.