Australian Grand Prix 2011, Albert Park Circuit - Race 1/19

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Not sure which race you just watched but it seems the DRS does very little and contributed just about nothing to overtaking which was still very low.

it made a difference, not as much as they expected, but then again it isn't the best track for it. You can still see how unfair it is. Just look at buttons move. Kers + DRS straight past.

It's a stupid system and is just goign to get worse as we go through the season, with places with longer straights and especially with tyres when we'll have top runners behind significantly slower cars. It is not racing and a unfair advantage.
 
After seeing that replay button was clearly a nose in front, but i didn't think that made a difference as he could have backed out or something.
 
Surely though they need to get used to using it and taking the failures other teams have had over the previous year of using it. Better now when they have a second per lap atleast in hand??

But how much of that seconds is because they don;t run KERS, Horn has already said Newey would not compromise the car to put kers in and we all know it unbalances the car due to braking. Perhaps KERS is more of a hinderence, as long as you are out in front. As they've had to design KERS to fit around the car, I expect there is a lot of problems with it. Would be interesting to see what times they have if they use it.

Also be nice to see what mclaren can do when they get their proper revision parts and not components thrown together and protected by titanium.
 
Australian Grand Prix - top three drivers
Podium finishers Sebastian Vettel, Lewis Hamilton and Vitaly Petrov give their reactions to the Australian Grand Prix and their prospects for the rest of the Formula 1 season.


The Australian Grand Prix
Jake Humphrey introduces live coverage as the eagerly anticipated 2011 Formula 1 season begins in Australia.
Last year Britain's Jenson Button took the chequered flag by 12 seconds in a race that began in damp conditions. The 2009 world champion gambled early on by switching his McLaren to dry tyres, it was a decision that moved him into second place, and when polesitter Sebastian Vettel's day ended in a gravel trap, Button inherited the lead and never looked back. The now-injured Robert Kubica finished second in his Renault, with the Ferrari of Felipe Massa completing the podium.
Martin Brundle and David Coulthard supply the commentary.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong. But the RBR will be very well balanced due to having no ker system constantly trying to recharge the battery? I can't say I've seen them lock a wheel yet under braking.

Yep, as i said earlier it would be interesting to see a lap with kers on, I have an idea they would be slower than they are now. As long as you stay out in front kers is pretty pointless.

Also mclaren literally threw those parts together, will be interesting to see if they have some proper revised parts for the next race, that mclaren might have a a lot of raw pace now they have simplified it, just need to iron the simplified designs out.
 
And maybe one day the FIA will actually do something about Red Bull's flexing wings.

I don;t think they can. It has to flex for more than 5mm. I assuming this is each piece. so if they are getting say 2mm flex out of 3 different structures it is still legal and it passes the scrutineering. Which means it's extremely hard to prove. I think it's up to the others to work out how they are doing it and copy.

I don't know why, I'm a lot less annoyed by RBR and vettle this year. In fact I'm really not bothered at all, unlike last year. Probably just the heat of the battle.
 
As for point one, havn't seen the replay but im pretty sure 2 of his wheels were still within the yellow/white lines.

nope, all 4 clearly out as was another car.

One argument for vettle but not the other is he was past or more like 3/4 past before he went outside the line. But then if he didn;t go outside the line he wouldn't of been able to carry the speed.

ps3ud0 said:
Quite happy to turn a blind eye until a petition is raised...
So true
 
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That's all well and good but you can;t stop flex, which is why there is a maximum permitted flex and a test.
Problem is cars are tested as individual parts. Weights are applied separately and don't replicate aero effects.

Like here, 5mm allowed
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* 3.17.8 says "In order to ensure that the requirements of Article 3.15 are respected, the FIA reserves the right to introduce further load/deflection tests on any part of the bodywork which appears to be (or is suspected of), moving whilst the car is in motion."
which they have done and it's still past, photos can't really be used as evidence. only way they can simulate aero down force is to carry a wind tunnel with them and that's not going to happen.
 
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