he wasn't lapped and it was for position temporarily until JB came into the pits.
Australian Grand Prix 2011, Albert Park Circuit - Race 1/19
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he wasn't lapped and it was for position temporarily until JB came into the pits.
It's still an unfair advantage and artificial, it;s not racing and as such has no place in a racing formula.
I also think you'll be surprised at other tracks.
You can;t do that as you can;t test it.
However as I said many times you need three things
BHP needs to be larger than > grip
Mechanical grip needs to be significantly more than aero.
On aero all they have to do is make it smaller, higher and the like. But you also need the other two elements.
Nope - its not like they came into the season not aware of the rules - whose fault is it other than theirs that they couldnt comply?
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FIA. they came in under promises of 40million and other rules.
As crofty and r5l team said, it's a miracle they have a car at all, due to the terms they signed up for.
Also with no testing how they going to improve and do any running.
And whos fault is that, mainly FIAs, for promising stuff tat wasn't likely to succeed. I actually feel very sorry for HRT, they have been totally screwed by FIA.
because it's totally un-workable, that's obvious if you thought about it for a few seconds.
So FIA are going to lug a wind tunnel to every race are they? Or are you going to ban updates, they can update the car several times in a race weekend.
Virgin and Lotus have managed to secure more funds.
Do you honestly think HRT would be over the 107% rule if all teams where on a 40mill budget.
I wonder, perhaps because they had to over spend last year and try to get a budget that is enough to compete. They are in a situation they did not sign up for and have no control over. The less they race and the more bad press the less chance of sponsorship as well as testing. it's a huge compounding affect.
No idea have you?
And that all costs money, something they are struggling for, as they can't compete and the less they compete and the more bad press the budget shrinks. Virgin and lotus are very lucky they got some good big name sponsors early on.
So after they where promised x,y,z you expect them to just fold without trying?
They new what to expect, but despite what you say, last year has a huge impact on this year.
It's both, do you think one season has no barring on the next season?
Despite things like budgets, to new cars being a revision of last years.
They don't though, just look at last year, they are so easy to overtake, it really isn't a problem. Even the teams wanted them to race, fia over ruled it.
Sell what, they haven't got any thing to sale, why should't they keep trying, what choice do they have.
They have to keep trying.
Also you can;t compare operating budget to a team like force India. They will have far more equipment and infrastructure. As well as design and other such things.
1) you can never stop tweaking aero, unless you standardise components and that's not f1.
2) you can't, you can't lug one around. There's not enough time to test and crunch the numbers for all parts for all teams.
It simply not enforceable.
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Costs money, should be where possible extra track time on the Friday/Saturday. either just an extended period or between support races or something, be far the cheapest race and give fans something extra to watch albeit pretty boring.
It is not like checking weights that is a simple non consuming time test and cheap.
If you don't test, teams will simply break the rules.
And your trying to paind HRT as the bad guys, without looking at what they came into the sport under and what has happened to certain contracts.
A long established team is slightly different to a start up team for example they have the infrastructure and they can get sponsorship relatively easily, FIA made huge mistakes. HRT have also been unlucky/stupid depending on what contracts where signed.
I expect they will go, that's not my point. My point is everyone is blaming them, when a lot of focus should be on FIA promising x,y,z and the selection process.
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As you pointed out, surely HRT would have ensured that these promises and breaking them meant some form of financial security by way of an agreed contract. The more I think about it the more stupid their entry into F1 becomes - we arent talking about people that dont have a lot of business accum...
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You can't force the hand of the FIA you have to trust them or more likely pray.
I was more on about chassis and design contracts and the like.