Australian Grand Prix 2014, Melbourne - Race 1/19

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I like the fact that they sound different. More so that each engine supplier has it's own unique sound, because it varies it up. The commentary "drowning" out the audio is only a problem with 2 channel audio, in my experience.


Obviously you're not hard of hearing(which is good)the commentators are drowning what little engine sound there is.

The V8s was loud and I had no problem hearing them :)
But imagine losing 70% of your hearing then trying to tune your guitar ;)

Anyway back on topic.
 
...or just offer a "no-commentary" video feed via the red button?.

Seriously, the engines are the engines. Learn to live with it, or watch something else.

I like the fact that they sound different. More so that each engine supplier has it's own unique sound, because it varies it up. The commentary "drowning" out the audio is only a problem with 2 channel audio, in my experience.

How do you think the sound stage should be set up?

Usually vocals/dialouge would be dleivered via the centre channel. Of course the engines are mono (when on board anyway) so should come out the rear centre. I guess many people have 5.1 systems though, so that would leave the engine coming from left and right rear, which might sound strange.

I don't deny that the noise of an event can add to the experience, but when all is said and done, engine noise is just a waste product.
 
I don't see why that would be a problem, provided that the racing behind them is actually enjoyable. What we had for the second half of last year was Vettel walking it and a deeply uninteresting championship behind him, which is of course something to be avoided. But now we've got unreliable, twitchy cars that haven't yet been developed to perfection. We've got technical rules that (engine layout moaning aside, I've obviously lost that battle!) at the very least offer something rather more interesting than Happy Fun Time With Diffusers™. We've got rookies in (so far) good cars, experienced drivers in (so far) lesser ones. Hell, until the Ricciardo penalty wasn't that the first podium without a current or former champion on it for a few years?

If Rosberg goes on a string of easy wins and takes the title incredibly early, I won't feel short-changed. Sure, a battle for the title is a good thing - but it counts for ****-all if the actual racing is as fun to watch as cancer.
Yep, I'm really happy with the new set up. Cars that all sound different, powerslides, unreliability, imperfections, rookies in decent machinery, champions in wobbly machinery.

I'd like to hear even more turbo noise but generally I like what I've seen so far in 2014.
 
Just watched the race today on iplayer, (was working sat/sun) Definitely sound like hoovers, racing and entire shake up does seem to make it more interesting, impressed with Magnussen, Bottas and Ricciardo, but fuel saving has taken last years saving the tyres to a new extent :(

My thoguht yesterday, they've gone from V12, to V10, then V8 and now V6. Soon enough they'll be using a similar V-twin to what I have in my bike ...
 
I wonder what F1 power units will be like in 100 years.
The engines will probably be the size of an apple and generate the same amount of power we see today.

If they left the engines large, by now, the speeds of the cars would be incredible.

Before I got into F1, in the early-mid 80s, some turbo charged engines would throw out around 1400bhp. I think it was BMW who produced a 1400bhp engine.
 
Sound is one thing, rather disappointing but I can get over it.

The look of the cars is something else, totally unacceptable in my view and unnecessary.

Now I get to see ugly bricks with various styles of strange appendages driving around sounding like demented bumblebees.

Oh yeah and cars being knocked out for whole session or day because a bit of software or wiring has come unplugged.

Don't forget the brilliant penalty system hasn't really begun to kick in yet.

If they wanted to do this sort of racing they should have started a new series.
 
The whole thing will never please everyone unfortunately.

People complained that it should be the pinnacle of tech (the V8s certainly weren't) so now we move to the most advanced of hybrid systems and surprise, people aren't happy.
Small capacity petrol/hybrid engines are relevant to todays needs and it's impressive how much power can be generated and harvested - all from a 1.6 turbo engine.

The technical problems will get ironed out soon enough.
 
Have to agree the engines are a huge let down, i dont see what fuel saving has to do with F1? Why is it so improtant for F1 to reduce fuel used for the cars i really dont get it.

Because F1 has to remain relevant to the engine makers 'real world' market, and the engine makers are all car makers.
 
My thoguht yesterday, they've gone from V12, to V10, then V8 and now V6. Soon enough they'll be using a similar V-twin to what I have in my bike ...

Well, originally inline 4's were on the cards but went with the v6's as a compromise.

I don't mind the noise - I'd rather hear the crowd, the chassis hitting the floor, the brake squeal etc rather than a monotonous drone throughout the race.

So far, I'm loving F1 2014 but I'd like to see them raise the fuel limit a bit so we see less drivers having to drive to save fuel. IMHO fuel saving should all be done by the technology, not the driver.

Why is it so improtant for F1 to reduce fuel used

Relevance. And they want more manufacturers to come back to F1. It's already tempted Honda back.
 
The "safe" low nose is already looking like a really bad idea. The way Massa's car rode up the front of Kobi's was really worrying. A bit more speed and that could easily have resulted in the back of Massa's car connecting with Kobi's head.
 
The teams have raised concerns that the tip of the nose is now well below the height of the rear crash structure.

Its solved the T bone issue but created another. I can see the rules being changed for next year, mandating higher and wider noses.
 
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