Asking you to clarify your point is not an argument. How would you have flat out races and pitstops?
But still more popular then nowbut don't let facts get in the way.
Don't let Pay TV get in yours.
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Asking you to clarify your point is not an argument. How would you have flat out races and pitstops?
Don't let Pay TV get in yours.
Oh yeah d'oh' was looking at the car flag, rather than driver.
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2012 F1 season remains one of the best i've watched to date, what was it 7 different winners in the first 7 races? Was a great season.
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2010 was great, 3 drivers in it at the last race still. 2009 was epic, red bull closing the gap to a fund limited brawn outfit in the second half, and jenson holding vettels inroads off. 11 was decent, 13 was awful and 14 was good with ros vs ham, too many moaners on here!
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I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with the underlying F1 rules at the moment; last season we saw plenty of great ovetaking and on-track action. The problem is that one team has a huge advantage and the restrictions on development aren't letting the other teams catch up effectively. There's also an issue with the costs for the longer term health of the sport.
How about making the technical data open to the other teams so teams have to publish their car's technical data after each race. This would help smaller teams with costs since they can ride the coattails of top teams and help other teams catch up on teams with a strong advantage.
How about making the technical data open to the other teams so teams have to publish their car's technical data after each race. This would help smaller teams with costs since they can ride the coattails of top teams and help other teams catch up on teams with a strong advantage.
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They have 8 or was it 9 tokens to spend on upgrades. Renault have 12 tokens left. Irc merc has 7 tokens left.
Depending what it is depends how many tokens it costs.
Then some things like engine mapping doesn't cost anything.
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As far as I'm aware they're allowed to make changes for reliability (or fuel efficiency?) outside of homologation anyway, so changes that were purely for reliability shouldn't affect their token allocation.
I completely agree with that, so long as they're better than Marussia, Caterham and HRT (though not at all their fault, given they were promised budget caps which never materialised).
But where's the incentive to join? The sport is in turmoil and no-one knows which direction it's going to go in. If you were Toyota, would you look at Honda and think "well, there's potential for success, but we don't need that kind of poor publicity!"? Then the rules to change a year later... and still not everyone is happy! Why would you look to join up now?
Each to their own but I still believe Vettel had a far easier time against Webber than Hamilton did against Rosberg.
Firstly I think Rosberg, although an inferior driver to Hamilton, was far closer to Hamilton in performance than Webber was to Vettel. Secondly, Hamilton was also battling reliability. Much was made of how Vettel always seemed to get the luck when it came to reliability but, last year, Hamilton had by far the worse of it versus Rosberg, which made his job that much harder.
Two of Vettel's championships were won by the two largest points margins in recent years. Webber didn't even mount a challenge.
You said you wanted flat out races with no tyre or fuel saving, but will also allow pit stops. Can you please clarify how that would work in practice?
Don't let Pay TV rights reducing the TV audience size get in your way of posting 'facts'.
Kermit, the rear wing is quite heavily regulated in terms of dimensions and number of elements, but that was primarily to make it a good sponsor advertising spot! They are limited to 2 elements so brand names are easy to read 
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IndyCar has an interesting situation with its manufacturer specific aero kits on a standard chassis.
.IndyCar has an interesting situation with its manufacturer specific aero kits on a standard chassis.
OK fair enough. It's a shame Honda don't or didn't start with the same amount of tokens as everyone else.
That makes sense as well, I just don't understand how it has been SO un reliable. I know they are limited in testing, but surely lots of these issues would/could have been seen in the factory where they build/run/test the engines.
Honda can't be best pleased about this. You only had to watch one of the F1 programs on Sky at the weekend and you were presented with some awsome Honda adverts where it ends with them saying "This is our year" or something along those lines.
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In 2010 Webber could have won it. But as we all know rb used Webber as a sacrificial lamb which Ferrari fell for.
You know, flat out till you need more fuel and tires. It's a easy concept in fact they used to do it. But not the flat out bit.
I never mentioned pay 4 view. They don't have p4v in some countries and yet the viewing figures went down as much as 30% there.
I don't care any more if it goes P4V next season. I will still watch it in HD for free
Anyway. Roll on the next race and I hope Merc win by 45 seconds. And Lewis get another win.
How would you make everyone drive flat out rather than drive a strategy to pit for tyres as little as possible and carry the least amount of fuel possible?
Would you mandate a number of pit stops that are safely within tyre life and fuel tank limits?
Would you mandate a number of pit stops that are safely within tyre life and fuel tank limits?
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The same could be said about Renault and to a lesser degree Ferrari last year. Mercedes must be commended for how well they ran out of the box last year, but even their customers had a difficult first day. Even a year later Renault are struggling to understand an apparently relatively unchanged engine.
Things have come a long way from the days of a block of metal with a few wires and pipes. It takes the experienced teams 2 hours plus to change a power unit, which gives you some idea of just how complex the installation is - try to picture that degree of complexity and you can begin to understand just how difficult it must be to work around and with these engines, and I'm fairly sure they're far more complex than our heads can even comprehend.
Sitting on a dyno is fine, but when you try to squeeze it inside a tightly packaged rear end you will find problems. We're talking two of the biggest and most experienced car manufacturers in the world who are struggling here, and it's not for lack of effort and I'm sure money. These things are almost impossibly complicated.