Australian Grand Prix 2015, Melbourne - Race 1/19

[Skeeter]

It's just horner doing his moaning bit again. RB can't leave F1 till 2020 as they have a contract with the sport's bosses.

Roll on the next race

As with everything in F1, that's nothing a cheque won't sort out.

I expect its a tie to the team rather than the owners, so providing the team remains they can probably sell up and go and sponsor some boats instead.

But ultimately it's just Horner crying. He's complained about the rules in about a billion different ways since he no longer was the winning team.

Actually, didn't he complain about the rules all the time when they were winning too?

 

[Kulealshi]

Suddenly I have visions of Toto Wolff's Jeremy Clarkson smugface...

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/118084

"Potentially yes," he said when asked if he expected the gap to be larger at Sepang.

"Aero-wise, we are doing well and on the power unit side we are doing well; the integration went well."

While much of the focus has been on the strength of the engine package, the 2015 Mercedes is a formidable car aerodynamically.

Although the car builds on the success of last year's car, there have been substantial changes under the skin, which have allowed major strides to be taken aerodynamically.

 

[Kimi]

Looks like a repeat of last year

 

[stulid]

It's become so dull to watch.

Maybe they should allow more innovation in designs of cars, different engine types to be used (want to use a Turbo? sure but 1.3L and a limited RPM is all we will allow, want to use a 5L V12? sure....no restrictions etc).

Maybe the circuits are too safe these days, make a mistake and they have 1000yards of run off area to recover.

 

[Guerrilla]

It's become so dull to watch.

Maybe they should allow more innovation in designs of cars, different engine types to be used (want to use a Turbo? sure but 1.3L and a limited RPM is all we will allow, want to use a 5L V12? sure....no restrictions etc).

Maybe the circuits are too safe these days, make a mistake and they have 1000yards of run off area to recover.

Yea I think the current regulations are (unfortunately) set up in such a way that if one team has a big advantage there isn't a lot other teams can realistically do to close the gap.

 

[deuse]

It's become so dull to watch.

Maybe they should allow more innovation in designs of cars, different engine types to be used (want to use a Turbo? sure but 1.3L and a limited RPM is all we will allow, want to use a 5L V12? sure....no restrictions etc).

Maybe the circuits are too safe these days, make a mistake and they have 1000yards of run off area to recover.

Everything was ok up until 2010, then after that it was all about aero. So you want different classes in F1 like they do
in some other motor sports? If so we've already got that kind of racing.

I wished that they would have spent all that wasted money on getting the V8s better in fuel use.
That would have helped the whole world as a V8 engine is sold every 20 seconds, every hour every day

 

[Skeeter]

Maybe the circuits are too safe these days, make a mistake and they have 1000yards of run off area to recover.

Maldonado disagrees .

 

[stulid]

But they dont even allow that much innovation these days.

Blown rear diffusers, double diffusers etc., all stamped out, some engineer comes up with a clever idea and it gets ruled out.

Maldonado disagrees .

But he crashes even when not in a car

 

[Jase]

100% this. I'm not vettels biggest fan (support him now as hes a ferrari driver) but to say Hamiltons title last year was any different to any of vets is a bit of a stretch. He was in an utterly dominant car against an inferior teammate.

Exactly and this year will be the same..

 

[Skeeter]

Everything was ok up until 2010, then after that it was all about aero.

It's been 'all about aero' since Chapman first bolted a wing to some poles, and engines have been to a restricted set of regulations since 1947, and a specified single engine type since 2006. Why have you singled out 2010 as the turning point?

 

[MooMoo444]

Looks like a repeat of last year

So a back and forth season, all the way up to and including the final race?

Damn, you make it sound like it's not going to be entertaining.

I'll be over here, enjoying it.

Rather two strong cars than watching the Vettel show.

 

[JUMPURS]

Hamilton's was hard fought last year and Vettel's weren't

How many of Vettel's went to the last race or two of the season with several people able to win?

 

[Skeeter]

Hamilton's was hard fought last year and Vettel's weren't

How many of Vettel's went to the last race or two of the season with several people able to win?

2 of them.

People have selective memory. Vettel had a dominant car for only 1.5 of the 4 seasons he won.

 

[deuse]

But they dont even allow that much innovation these days.

Well your getting "innovation" now but you're moaning about it being dull.

F1 was most popular in 2008 and has been dying fan wise ever since.
WDC was won by just one point for 3 seasons(Think I'm right)

Now the team with the best engine and aero will win. So lets give the car back to the driver.

1-standard Floor
2-standard Front and rear wing. But there will be 3 types of front\rear wings for different tracks.

Stop all this fuel saving rubbish and have them turn the engine full whack.
They could even do what MotoGp do and let them have soft or hard tires at the same time. This alone would help with racing.

F1 should be more like MotoGp. Race like the devil until either you run out of fuel or your tires give up.

 

[JRS]

1-standard Floor
2-standard Front and rear wing. But there will be 3 types of front\rear wings for different tracks.

Ugh :/

Like I said earlier - how about we wait for rather more than one race before condemning this season? And let's leave the talk about standardising cars to spec racing series - this is supposed to be Formula One, not GP2.

 

[PooKer]

All of the moaning horner is doing is on behalf of renault. They've used the least development tokens. They want the FIA to step in, slow down the merc engines then boom suddenly they'll use all the tokens and have a race winning engine. it'll only be one race and the FIA will then let the merc's open up again.

Stat attack:
This year they had 7 retirements. Last year also had 7 retirements.

 

[deuse]

Ugh :/

Like I said earlier - how about we wait for rather more than one race before condemning this season? And let's leave the talk about standardising cars to spec racing series - this is supposed to be Formula One, not GP2.

I liked the first race. Lots going on all down the field. would have been better with more cars but you can blame the top teams for that.

I'm keeping my eye on Nasr, as I think he will be at a top team very soon.

 

[Skeeter]

So deuse, your suggestion is that F1 should be 20 lap GP2 races but with unlimited spending on developing 10 year old outdated engines that nobody wants to build?

Sounds ideal, I wonder why they didn't go for that....

 

[dannyjo22]

I liked the first race. Lots going on all down the field. would have been better with more cars but you can blame the top teams for that.

I wonder if you would have said the same if it was Vettel winning in a red bull

I'd be all for a standard front and rear wing. Far too much money wasted that could be better spent on other areas for smaller teams. It's pretty much the only part I'd like standardised, they run standard tyres with little impact and I don't feel wings adds anything to my enjoyment but costs the teams a fortune for no real world benefit to the industry.

 

[smr]

I liked the first race. Lots going on all down the field. would have been better with more cars but you can blame the top teams for that.

I'm keeping my eye on Nasr, as I think he will be at a top team very soon.

People were hailing Perez as the second coming in his first race, didn't he almost go a full race distance on one set of tyres, with decent pace to boot?

Fast forward to today and people are saying he drove awfully yesterday.

People jump the gun far too much in this Sport, one race doesn't give any indication whatsoever as to whether Nasr is the real deal or not, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have finished where he did if you factor in all of the top driver DNFs either.