Austrian Grand Prix 2014, Spielberg - Race 8/19

drunkenmaster · 22 Jun 2014 at 14:05

Finners said:
Does anybody know the constructors championship payout money, think Williams might tell their drivers to hold position to guarantee the points.

If they have a good season I guess they could get second.

I really wouldn't expect them to want them to fight, but Massa might not be too happy, he's got newer tires by a small amount, see how he does towards the end of the stint.

It's becoming a bit like last season now, RBR struggling with top speed at some tracks but awesome downforce.

Mercedes now sacrificing a bit of top speed vs FI/Williams, but much better overall car, but has hurt them down straights in a couple races. Not much because they are usually ahead but when they are behind they are getting stuck, stuck behind Bottas/Perez in this race for long periods.

As the season goes on and the Williams improves and FI do their long stints, that lack of top speed design could hurt them a little as it did RBR.

Flibster · 22 Jun 2014 at 14:06

Finners said:
Does anybody know the constructors championship payout money, think Williams might tell their drivers to hold position to guarantee the points.

If they have a good season I guess they could get second.

There is an old copy of the 1997 Concorde Agreement out there. It's seriously complicated to figure out how much people will get.

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Aha... Found it. If anyone fancies a read of it - http://bdmunc.org/files/FIA-Supplement.pdf

MagicBoy · 22 Jun 2014 at 14:06

Flibster said:
Would love the proper Hockenheim too, but they destroyed the track instead of just leaving it to decay. Make it immensely difficult to find the site of Jim Clark's accident.

Ditto.

The sound of a Ferrari V12 shrieking through the forest in a shower of titanium sparks beings a grin to my face.

CaptainRAVE · 22 Jun 2014 at 14:06

Hamilton falling back

Finners · 22 Jun 2014 at 14:06

Well rosbergs did catch fire briefly in the pit stop so guess they are on the limit, must be hotter than expected

CaptainRAVE · 22 Jun 2014 at 14:07

I am not convinced Mercedes have been caught. It is just this kind of track.

CaptainRAVE · 22 Jun 2014 at 14:08

So Hamilton's tires were better? Just needs to be patient then and just have a massive dive at the end.

drunkenmaster · 22 Jun 2014 at 14:09

CaptainRAVE said:
I am not convinced Mercedes have been caught. It is just this kind of track.

They haven't been caught in out right pace, but ultimately if you take all the cars and out ahead of them somewhere is a hard red line where if they reach it, they hit brake heat, engine heat, battery heat limits and they can't go faster because the car starts to break. Ultimately Merc may have less room to improve because as they get faster they get closer and closer to the limit of the components, other cars aren't near those limits to start with so have more room for improvement.

Finners · 22 Jun 2014 at 14:11

Kimi is brilliant on the radio, massa needs to get a move on to.

Flibster · 22 Jun 2014 at 14:12

Hamilton's radio.

Front left brake is over the limit.

Jono8 · 22 Jun 2014 at 14:13

Hammy purposefully keeping at 1.5 secs for a while to then go for it at the end?

Flibster · 22 Jun 2014 at 14:13

With all that brake dust its looking like Vergne is heading towards a brake failure.

CaptainRAVE · 22 Jun 2014 at 14:14

Jono8 said:
Hammy purposefully keeping at 1.5 secs for a while to then go for it at the end?

Seems like it. He needs a win here.

Finners · 22 Jun 2014 at 14:14

You say that but we often see huge amounts of brake dust from the mclarens but they never seem to fail

Irish_Tom · 22 Jun 2014 at 14:15

Jono8 said:
Hammy purposefully keeping at 1.5 secs for a while to then go for it at the end?

Looks that way / hope so. He got the gap down to 1 second then fell back. Looks like he's managing it for the last 10(?) laps.

Jono8 · 22 Jun 2014 at 14:15

CaptainRAVE said:
Seems like it. He needs a win here.

Hope so. Otherwise it's crazy how evenly matched they are and how that gap is staying exactly the same lap after lap.

Quartz · 22 Jun 2014 at 14:16

Cracking race so far

drunkenmaster · 22 Jun 2014 at 14:16

Perez really needs to get a handle on his qualifying because in race he's been excellent, in terms of improvement and accounting for bad luck and car failures, he's basically owning Hulk on track but being spanked in qualifying.

Jono8 · 22 Jun 2014 at 14:17

Oh dear, hammy dropped off now.

CaptainRAVE · 22 Jun 2014 at 14:17

drunkenmaster said:
Perez really needs to get a handle on his qualifying because in race he's been excellent, in terms of improvement and accounting for bad luck and car failures, he's basically owning Hulk on track but being spanked in qualifying.

Hamilton needs to do the same. He keeps putting himself in this position with too much to do.