Soldato
Crofty actually looks emotionally distraught at twitter comments.
Austrian Grand Prix 2015, Spielberg - Race 8/19
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I agree that drivers should not be punished for engineering issues but there needs to be some penalties.
McLaren are so woeful at the minute that you couldn't take points off them.
It's a team sport, why would you separate the punishments, that makes no sense.
Ok lets just race with a totally illegal car, it's fine different punishments for drivers and teams, so drivers win WDC while WCC they get zero points.
Soldato
The drivers get penalised for making mistakes on track. Anything that happens off track the drivers should be excluded from having penalties applied to. Dont understand how hard this is to get your head around. There are two championships.... one for the team and one for the driver.
So what about the potential to gain sporting advantages? What's to stop a team using a new engine every session, getting them massive advantages, and the drivers winning the WDC because of it?
The penalties are to stop advantages as well as promote reliability. Honda are being stung for having pap engines, but equally it stops Mercedes running qualifying engines designed to last no more than 10 laps.
The penalties are to stop advantages as well as promote reliability. Honda are being stung for having pap engines, but equally it stops Mercedes running qualifying engines designed to last no more than 10 laps.
Soldato
Penalising them with wcc points would counter their ambitions to do that.
But drivers should not be penalised in the WDC for gaining massive advantages by having Qualifying spec engines?
Your just massively buthurt because Button got penalites, I don't think you have even mentioned Ricciardos, Kvyats, or Alonsos?
And anyway, isn't the whole point of upgrading the engines in order to make the cars faster and more reliable for the drivers? Everything in F1 is about improving performance on track. There isn't a single performance improvement a team makes that the drivers won't benifit from, directly or indirectly.
LOL at Brundle, "Not even the onboard camera works on that car".
Heh! Can't see him being inviting back to the McLaren garages for through the week interviews with Ron Dennis anytime soon.
Is that really why we never saw it from Alonso's angle? wow :/LOL at Brundle, "Not even the onboard camera works on that car".
Soldato
another grid penalty for alonso in silverstone apparantly, the engine has broken in two and is unrecoverable.
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The team also gets punished if a driver makes a mistake on the track. How do you propose a drivers mistake is excluded from the constructors championship?
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Bernie talking sense.
There is a fundamental problem with the Honda and Renault engine and the current rules are preventing them from fixing those problems anytime soon. Development is governed by the token system and the ban on testing is strangling the sport. Renault and Honda have walked away from the sport before and what do we have left if they do so again?
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Bernie talking sense.
There is a fundamental problem with the Honda and Renault engine and the current rules are preventing them from fixing those problems anytime soon. Development is governed by the token system and the ban on testing is strangling the sport. Renault and Honda have walked away from the sport before and what do we have left if they do so again?
Decent engines that would put everyone on a more level playing field.
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People will soon get fed up with Ferrari v Mercedes.