Autosport Awards 2012

smr · 3 Dec 2012 at 18:37

British Club Driver of the Year Award: Scott Malvern

National Driver of the Year Award: Gordon Shedden

1st Pioneering and Innovation Award: FIA medical team, acknowledging the remarkable work of Professor Sid Watkins

2nd Pioneering and Innovation Award: Nissan DeltaWing

1st John Bolster Award for Technical Excellence: Peter Sauber

2nd John Bolster Award for Technical Excellence: Bob Dance

Rally Car of the Year: Citroen DS3 WRC

Rookie of the Year Award: Matheo Tuscher

British Competition Driver: Jenson Button :cool:

Racing Car of the Year: Red Bull RB8 :eek:

International Racing Driver: Sebastian Vettel (for the 3rd consecutive year)

Cupra · 3 Dec 2012 at 18:39

I love button but how did he win British Competition Driver?

smr · 3 Dec 2012 at 18:41

It wasn't his greatest ever season, I think any Jenson fan must concede that... he must be a likeable chap.

Skeeter · 3 Dec 2012 at 19:32

Excellent choices for the pioneering and innovation awards.

NathanE · 3 Dec 2012 at 19:33

What an utter joke that Button should win such an award.

He spent half the year not being able to set his car up and copying Hamilton's setup.

Also, 7 poles for HAM to 1 for BUT. And that pole was only because the team sabotaged Lewis' car by bolting on the wrong rear wing.

HAM would have won the WDC if it wasn't for his useless team and reliability.

Autosport and its members are either racist, deluded or forgetful of half the season.

el_dazza · 3 Dec 2012 at 20:05

NathanE said:
Autosport and its members are either racist

Ahh, we're playing that card are we. Hamilton doesn't win something so let's play the race card

NathanE · 3 Dec 2012 at 21:15

el_dazza said:
Ahh, we're playing that card are we. Hamilton doesn't win something so let's play the race card

Do you actually disagree or just stirring the pot as you have a massive reputation for on here? If not, clear off?

dannyjo22 · 3 Dec 2012 at 21:43

Wow Autosport have got mixed up with the teen awards.

AshD93 · 3 Dec 2012 at 22:15

How did the car of the year go to the RB8?

As a Red Bull fan, even I can say the McLaren appeared to be the better car.

JRS · 3 Dec 2012 at 22:22

NathanE said:
Autosport and its members are either racist

*sigh*

Think I've read it all on here now....what a ridiculous statement to make. If you honestly believe that Button getting the nod over Hamilton for that award (for what it's worth, I don't think either of them should have got it) was down to racism, then my respect for your opinions just took a dramatic nosedive.

NathanE · 3 Dec 2012 at 22:39

Sigh at you too JRS? :confused:

I don't honestly believe that at all. It was one of three possible suggested explanations for the bizarre award to Button rather than Hamilton.

That two members have made the exact same quotation out of context suggests IQ's are dropping in here.

Does anyone here actually think that Button deserves it more than Hamilton? Button had an awful season. Hamilton arguably had his best season, bounced back massively from a poor 2011 campaign, and proved numerous doubters wrong that he can't handle the Pirelli tyres. His 2012 campaign was only tainted by his team messing it up but that shouldn't be a slight on the driver nor should it weigh the outcome of such an award's selection process.

JRS · 3 Dec 2012 at 22:41

NathanE said:
I don't honestly believe that at all.

So why type it then?

Kenai · 3 Dec 2012 at 22:45

Aren't most of the awards voted for anyway?

It's probably just motorsport fans in general being racist in that case

El_Watcher · 3 Dec 2012 at 22:46

JRS said:
Think I've read it all on here now....what a ridiculous statement to make.

What the heck is wrong with this place lately? Someone makes a throw away comment, and people react as if it is fact, geez. I am sure just as Lewis made that comment in Monaco trying to be funny, this is the same.
Plus, can you say with 100% certainty that none of the members of the Autosport selection committee are not racist

Some of those choices are slightly odd, I mean Button was average, and there are probably top end sports car drivers who had a better year, heck Allan Mcnish came 2nd in the LMP1 class which is higher in the championship than Button.

What exactly has Peter Sauber done to win technical excellence (honest question)?

NathanE · 3 Dec 2012 at 22:47

JRS said:
So why type it then?

Erm because although I don't actually "think it", it still remains as a possible explanation? Does it not?

I'm staggered that I have to actually explain how to read a sentence to you and apply critical thought.

Autosport is a bit of a old mans club, after all. Who knows how backwards things are in the "inner fold" of it. But I may be wrong on that. I don't know. I was expecting someone to come along and explain how fair the Autosport process is, but no instead I got two jumped up idiots coming along on their high horses trying to suggest I am playing some sort of "race card" even though I'm not even capable of playing it due to my skin colour.

smr · 4 Dec 2012 at 00:01

Again I cannot fathom why Lewis fans feel he was so hard done by by the team. He had exactly the same amount of bad luck whether it be slow stops or mechanical failures as button yet people seem to remember only Lewis' misfortunes on that front.

Fact is Lewis didn't capitalise on his pole positions and if it wasn't for reliability problems it was him undoing his hard work on Saturdays and going backwards in the race.

JRS · 4 Dec 2012 at 01:07

NathanE said:
jumped up idiots

That's the way we're playing it, is it?

I really do love Hamilton fanboys. He didn't win an award, so there must be some reason for it that doesn't involve him not being good enough. Got to be his skin colour, or the committee members not liking him much, or someone being bribed, but it couldn't possibly be because he just wasn't good enough to win. That doesn't ever seem to register in the worldview of Hamilton fans. I mean, how could he possibly not be good enough? He's Lewis Hamilton.

Hell, maybe Button got the nod because of his charitable work. Like I said, I wouldn't have given him or Hamilton the award (I'd have given it to Dario Franchitti for winning the Indy 500 again and showing the American open-wheelers who's the boss).

Skeeter · 4 Dec 2012 at 01:08

Kenai said:
Aren't most of the awards voted for anyway?

It's probably just motorsport fans in general being racist in that case

Racist? No. But there is a wide spread dislike for Lewis among British fans.

As always with anything up for a vote they become nothing more than a popularity contest and JB is far more popular as a bloke among British fans than Lewis.

Car of the year should have been the DeltaWing.

Rybo89 · 4 Dec 2012 at 08:10

Obviously gave most awards to who ever turned up? Aint that how award ceremonies go?

dannyjo22 · 4 Dec 2012 at 08:41

smr said:
Again I cannot fathom why Lewis fans feel he was so hard done by by the team. He had exactly the same amount of bad luck whether it be slow stops or mechanical failures as button yet people seem to remember only Lewis' misfortunes on that front.

Fact is Lewis didn't capitalise on his pole positions and if it wasn't for reliability problems it was him undoing his hard work on Saturdays and going backwards in the race.

What, care to prove your statement with some facts that Button lost as many points and or had as many undeserved failures/slow stops etc as Hamilton. I think I've seen more than once on here and the JA blog that isn't anywhere near true.

Button got absolutely bummed this year by Hamilton, it only looks remotely good for Button because of Hamiltons failures that were not his fault.

Quite why you are still trying to deny this is quite bizarre. I prefer Button to Hamilton but it's pretty obvious if both drivers had 100% reliability this year and no team errors at all only one driver would have been competing for the title and it wouldn't have been Button.