That would not make the slightest bit of difference, to the porpoiseing.
All teams are using vortex generators to seal the side of the floors anyway, so skirts would add nothing.
Poll: Azerbaijan Grand Prix 2022, Baku - Race 8
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That would not make the slightest bit of difference, to the porpoiseing.
All teams are using vortex generators to seal the side of the floors anyway, so skirts would add nothing.
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Looks like Max is set to be a 2 times world champion.
I wonder why George is doing so much better than Lewis? Perhaps more enthusiasm to push harder because he's younger and has something to prove.
That would defeat the porpoise.
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I wonder why George is doing so much better than Lewis? Perhaps more enthusiasm to push harder because he's younger and has something to prove.
That would defeat the porpoise.
(I'll get my coat)
Looks like Max is set to be a 2 times world champion.
I wonder why George is doing so much better than Lewis? Perhaps more enthusiasm to push harder because he's younger and has something to prove.
That would defeat the porpoise.
This has been explained repeatably, Hamilton gets all the new experimental parts and basically a new car every week. Russell has a very stable (but not race winning) car
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Accounting for luck I have it 4-4 in races, and the team have said that they're running experimental setups on Hamilton's car.
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So in other words, Lewis gets all the fancy parts and still can't get anywhere near George
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I wonder if they've considered adding some additional shock absorber for just the driver's seat.
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The team was suggesting that Lewis was at a disadvantage as the experimental setups weren't working, and how did you manage to interpret "4-4 accounting for luck" as "still can't get anywhere near George"?So in other words, Lewis gets all the fancy parts and still can't get anywhere near George
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Oh my, where's your sense of humour
As for "luck", well that's to each person's personal preference. Personally I don't think either of them have been particularly lucky or unlucky other than the Saudi race. Sure there were a few things that didn't work our for Lewis but those were mostly decisions he/ his team made rather than bad luck.Not worth really debating it with you if that's your view. Lewis has objectively had **** luck in almost every race this year.
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You could get some very compact anti-vibration/shock absorbing blocks in the 1980s when I was mounting telemetry recorders in helicopters for BAe, so there must be way better stuff available now.
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Do the rules allow it?
I have a feeling they don't although packaging something like that considering space and centre of gravity would be challenging. Wouldn't be surprising if there is some form of absorption padding between the seat and floor though.
I know the FIA banned Renault's 2005 mass damper implementation (under moveable aero regs) but i do wonder if any of the teams have managed to find a loophole and deployed something similar - certainly helped Renault with their porpoising.
I think the last race was the first time Lewis didn't actually have some bad luck **** all over him. Although they still double stacked the pits and he lost a place to Vettel? He was flying past people though, how many places did he make up? I think it's just a combo of him willing to try different things with the car, and some very poor luck so far. I'm not actually bothered if George does better than him this season, look at all the other cars. Every race seems different, with these new regs everything seems pretty random besides the fact that Ferrari and RB are fast. The one good thing going for Merc is that they've shown consistency unlike Ferrari and RB who have had multiple retirements between them.
Well I lol'd ..That would defeat the porpoise.
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What the Mercedes suffered from was bouncing off the tarmac which is I believe a result of trying to fix the porpoising. If the FIA were to think about bringing in any rule they could have one that sets the maximum vertical g force that the drivers are permitted to absorb on health grounds. That way it would force the teams who suffer from it the most to resolve it and protect their drivers from any ill-effects..
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Mercedes should just take in on the chin, lower the performance of the car (further) and protect the health of the driver(s) and ensure that the FIA put in rules to stop this happening again, and make the car illegal in the first place.
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It would allow a much higher ride height while still having a seal, it would also allow much softer suspension, the problem is it would result in too much downforce and dangerous speeds.
The current design of floor was always just asking for trouble. Trying to seal the sides of a flat surface using fluid flow is always going to result in extreme ride heights and suspension travel. As it relies on extremely unsteady flow it was always going to be difficult to control.
I'm surprised you didn't already know and understand all this.
What did you actually do when you worked in f1?
It is not a flat floor though, there is a plank ithe middle.
Skirts work best when fixed not sliding. Look at all the issues Lotus had over trying to get variable sliding skirts to work without wearing excessively.
Having an increased ride height and softer suspension will result in incressed suspension movement, the exact opposite of what ground effect wants (a very fixed non variable ride height) hence the only ground effect to ever work sucessfully was with active suspension virtually guaranteeing a set ride height in all circumstances.
Modern aero design using vortex seals are far more effective than old style skirts.
Show a sportscar or LMP with skirts, they all use vortex's, far more manageable, as long as you are allowed far more adaptability of suspension components than current F1 rules allow.
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Because Williams version was too good and no one could copy it to the same degree.of success...
More serious answer, I think it was part of banning driving assists like ABS, traction control and the like.
More serious answer, I think it was part of banning driving assists like ABS, traction control and the like.
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Yeah, that was part of it, but there were also concerns over the safety of the system since it substantially increased cornering speeds and led to higher speed crashes when it failed. There's a reasonable summary of the history of active suspension here for those interested.
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How can luck be personal preference though? In 2 races a safety car out of their control put George ahead of Lewis, without which it would have certainly been the other way around. In Spain George did out qualify him, but Lewis's race pace was so superior that he could have challenged for the win had Magnussen not driven into him, it's simply infeasible that George could have stayed ahead.
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